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Sanathana Dharma - Part IIViews: 304
Jun 06, 2006 6:54 am re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Sanathana Dharma - Part II

Gyro
GAnesh,

I agree your point on salvation. When you say it is 'death' I call it as ' no rebirth' status and that is their last birth on earth, whoever I claimed as self realised. I have no problem in accepting your theory if the meaning of yours and mine are same.

Good question on RP's status of mind when Swami Vivekanada, put a coin under the mat without anybody's knowledge, to test the guru. RP got a kind of electric shock when he tried to sleep on that mat. Swami Ramakrishna Paramahasa believed that money in any form is an obstacle in the process of spiritual growth. So to get away from materialistic possessions he used to keep coin in one hand & clumps of earth in the other hand and throw both in the river telling both were useless to realise the god. This idea was so deep rooted in the mind of Sri Ramakrishna that he could not even touch a coin without getting pain or reflex withdrawal of the hand. Later in his life he was unable even to touch any metal (knowingly or unknowingly). This is how his materialistic possession vanished completely. When I say he was unaffected by good and bad I am talking of his (spiritual) status of mind and not the physique. When I use a hard word to someone, his/her mind would get wound though there is no physical injury. In the similar way when someone's physique gets affected his mind still can experience calmness.

When you claim that identifying people as "The Realized" quantifies and qualifies something that can neither be quantified nor be qualified then how do you say that realization happens only in death. What is the yardstick to measure the self realisation of a death person?

That particular incident in Mahabharatha shows the true friendship of two friends. Nothing else.


V.K.L. Raamanathan


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