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75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: NasscomViews: 74
Oct 31, 2009 8:46 am75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Kana Gopal
By siliconindia news bureau
Thursday,29 October 2009, 19:35 hrs

Bangalore: Indian IT firms reject 90 percent of college graduates and 75 percent of engineers who apply for jobs because they are not good enough to be trained, according to Nasscom.

Wipro employs 95,000, Infosys 1,05,000 and TCS 1,43,000. Of the Fortune 500, only Wal-Mart in America adds more people annually than either Infosys or TCS.


Last year Infosys hired 28,231 people, including 18,000 graduates paid Rs.3 lakh a year. This year they will hire 20,000 at Rs 3.25 lakh. Infosys is hiring though there isn't enough business. Currently, 30,000 people at Infosys are 'benched'.

Why are they still hiring and raising salaries? Because they cannot find competent people and due to this reason, this year Infosys increased its training of employees to 29 weeks. That's seven months of training. Why do they need so much training? And why is the quality of applicants so poor?

Infosys spends twice as much as its American competitors on training, four percent of revenue. Nine half-literates are produced by our colleges, by Nasscom's numbers, for every graduate of passable quality. What is Nasscom's solution to this? It wants government to boost college enrolment from 10 percent of those in secondary school, to 25 percent. Nasscom knows that this will only increase the number of job applicants, not the quality, but there's no other solution.

India produces three million graduates, but Nasscom says that next year it will see a shortage of 500,000 graduates, because incompetents will swamp the rest.


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Oct 31, 2009 9:49 amre: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Parag Pattani
Thanks for sharing Kana. However, I think this data is flawed. If Indian IT guys are in demand the world over, and indeed they are, what on earth is Nasscom talking about ?

Cheers !
Parag


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Nov 01, 2009 5:44 pmre: re: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Tahira Amir Sultan
Dear Parag,

Unfortunately, Kana is absolutely correct. And so is NASSCOM.

The old days that the Indian engineer is in demand is gone.

I run a branch of our Singapore office in India and we have been shocked how desperate IT job applicants are. However, we have to reject most of them because of this reason - incompetence. We ran 2 recruitment drives and
interviewed more than 200 people. Maybe 3 could be considered seriously.

Please don't in hearsay. You really need to be in the business to see the reality.

cheers
Tahira Sultan



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Nov 01, 2009 8:25 pmre: re: re: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Parag Pattani
Dear Tahira


Obviously the employers would know better. But statistics should be weighed in comparative terms. Considering the population size,which keeps on multiplying by the year in India, obviously the universities churn out huge number of graduates every year. In comparison, job opportunities are limited and it is for this reason, that employers have to sift through a large number of applicants to find the few right ones. Not every candidate is a competent candidate, just as our 5 fingers are not equal, just as not every doctor who graduates is successful, and this applies to any country in the world.

My comments are based on my understanding of the Indian demography, and the global trend in hiring Indians in the IT sector thus far.

Thanks for participating. Appreciated.

Cheers !
Parag


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Nov 01, 2009 9:59 pmre: re: re: re: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

VA Abraham
Right now, a US national is wanting to start a software company and since he knows that labour cost of Software engineers from India is competitive, he is asking me to source developers to start working on a project. His plan of action for a job is to have someone develop a program that connects all the social net works and then would allow the user and interface to enter his or her personal info so that it would have maximum exposure across the different social networks, as people recognize this but are just piecing some techniques together. Once he starts a following he then can cross reference to his blogs and then provide ancillary services such as web templates and revenue developing techniques and handle everything so it is very user friendly not like adsense. Everything needs to have monitoring metrics built in so the users can always see progress. Bar graphs work perfect. Also suggest it needs to have multiple language ability built in.
If any person is aware of software developers from India in this field, then I would like to get in touch with such a group of people.


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Nov 02, 2009 12:22 amre: re: re: re: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Himanshu Karia
Hmmmm... Interestingly, I had come across a similar news report from the same Silicon India portal some time back (4 months). I managed to trace it and am quoting an excerpt: http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/American_tech_grads_are_unemployable_HCL_CEO-nid-58497.html

QUOTE HCL technologies' Chief Executive Vineet Nayar recently said that American tech graduates are basically 'unemployable', according to an InformationWeek report. He says that he views American tech grads as inferior to those from India, China and Brazil. American tech students only enter the field to get rich or to dream up the next big thing while students from India and China are willing to handle even the boring part of the industry, ITIL and Six Sigma. UNQUOTE

Such reports MAY be based on either shallow research OR expressed as views of individual reporters/ persons. I guess it is upto the reader to evaluate and imbibe.

Tahira does have a point coming from a practicing entrepreneur. Those who actually go thro' the pains know where the shoe pinches!

Kana, thanks for sharing.


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Nov 02, 2009 12:46 amre: re: re: re: re: 75 percent Indian engineers unemployable: Nasscom#

Tahira Amir Sultan
Thank you for supporting Himanshu.

I noticed also that I am the only non-Indian on this thread.

Though India has done itself proud for its IT strength, I would like to warn that it is important not to be complacent.

India resources are no longer as competitive. Myself including CEOs of IT Businesses in SIngapore are now beginning to hire IT people from Eastern Europe (Hungary, Romania), Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines. The costing is lower.

In fact, we hired a Senior Scientist from the Philippines. She holds a PHD and has 15 years of experience. She delivers conferences aound the world. Her salary is equivalent to a fresh graduate in India.

So these are warning signs. Remember, US was a superpower, and they thought that they could remain a superpower forever. But we all know that China and India will eventually dominate. The same holds true for India as an IT hub. This is fading too.

warm regards,
Tahira Sultan




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