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| Nov 05, 2009 1:01 am | | Rationale behind religious practices | # |
charu hasan | | While I have no faith in Religion as such I cannot deny that religion gave people the way of life before the advent of kings, rulers and governments. In India Indus Valley Vedic Brahmins shaped civilization. It was basically an offshoot Persian, East European Greek and German culture. It was Yuan Suvang who first wrote about India and that proves that we had little influence of Chinese culture, which was responsible for several early scientific inventions like printing and explosives.
Early humans would have lived nude like most other mammals. At some point males and females decided to cover their genitals for one that it attracted the other sex and for another it was a very sensitive part of the body that has to be protected from accidental injuries to perpetuate procreation of the species. At that point female breasts were identified as a peripheral for feeding the young off springs. That is why we see in some African tribes we see women topless. Till recently in India’s Kerala, an advanced state today had topless women natives. Later one by one, most parts of women who had attraction for the man started getting covered by designer clothes. The worst form of such designer cloth is the Purdha that covers the whole of a lady leaving only two peepholes. I do not for a moment think that prophet Mohamed who was the first reformer in the whole world giving right to inherit property to women. His later disciples, who were male chauvinists and imposed this on their women, must have done it. Jesus was the one who abhorred violence and in his name Richard the lion hearted fought crusade wars and killed many humans for that objective. Later Great Briton, a Christian Nation, for its own political reasons provided a new state for the people who crucified their Son of God. Moses seemed to have imbibed in his clan that they are the chosen people of God. He thought of his people alone like you and I today think of our parents, siblings and off springs.
Now let us come to the plus points of religion. The Hindus claim that theirs is a way of life. I do not see any religion that did not give you a way of life. So did Moses Jesus, prophet Mohamed and Buddha too. The Vedic Brahmin told us that we should not eat beef, for the simple reason that such consumption will result in depletion of the livestock for ploughing our fields and providing milk for our children. The rule cannot apply to the Arab who did not have much of arable land to cultivate. Same way the Europeans have too much cattle that if they do not eat enough beef the cows and bulls may eat away all their vegetation causing another kind of Greenhouse effect.
Let us come to Prophet Mohamed banishing pork. The medical scientists today agree that there is a parasite in pork that would kill a human when he eats pork. To eliminate the parasite one has to go up to 400 censius when the meat would be charred beyond edibility. If you freeze the meat below zero, then only the parasite will die. Prophet Mohamed found by experience that in tropical countries people die often of eating pork, and so forbid them. This rule may not apply to Europeans who just hang their pork in their veranda to freeze them below zero.
Again Hindus have habit of refraining from associating with a family for ten days after a death in the family. On the thirteenth day the bereaved family calls all relations and friends for a feast. The reasoning is that death denotes some form of decease and decease denotes possible bacterial infection. That is why you are asked to take bath before entering your home. The feast after 13 days denotes that the incubation period is over and bacteria are not surviving. The ancient Hindus treated cobblers and barbers as untouchables. Then it was a matter of hygiene. The cobbler was handling dead carcass the Barber was tonsuring living humans in numbers per day. They themselves may have resistance to most bacteria bur may prove to be carriers.
Untouchability is justifiable even today in Intensive Care Units of hospitals. We must realize that cleanliness relates to Bath and not birth.
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| Nov 05, 2009 6:57 am | | re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Ganesh Ram | | I will wait for others to respond before I do the EIBS
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| Nov 05, 2009 7:44 am | | re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Padmanabhan R (padmania@gmail.com) | | Hindu's use Samprani and Muslims use Oudh, They both are very effective in cleaning our Aura and removing negative energy.
Padmanabhan
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| Nov 05, 2009 8:38 am | | re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
SOEB FATEHI | | article of faith
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| Nov 05, 2009 10:16 am | | re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
charu hasan | | I said `cleanlines relates to bath and not birth`. Those who disagree put up your hands
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| Nov 05, 2009 1:21 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Mohan G | | Charu,
You are right. A lot of meaningless rituals we practice today are due to prevailing conditions of the day. The fastest way to spread infection was by hair and air contact and hence the barber and his actions became untouchable. You were on the dot about death and bathing.
The Vedic brahmins did eat beef. I dont know how and when the ban on beef came about. The Vedic brahmins were men of the flesh and spirit in every way describeable.
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| Nov 05, 2009 8:29 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
padmanabhan ramasubban | | vedic brahmins are todays beings.Food is a matter of personal choice and so are other personal needs which becomes personal habits .
Giving moralistic and religious interpretations is only short sighted.
I find in real life a atheist or a agnostic more sensitive and compassionate towards their fellow beings without the religion or dogmas clouring their vision.
In reality a good ,level heased person shows no leanings and lives in total freedom from protracted rituals or dogmas .
Life becomes much easier if we simplify every aspect in life including religion and other beliefs.
The creator never showed any discrimination towards any of his own creations then why are we doing it pertually.
Hmm.........,I am looking at the horizon.......
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| Nov 05, 2009 8:33 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
charu hasan | | Mohan
I try an unbiased view of things. I could be wrong and that may be due to my ignorance, where I am ready to be corrected. Vedic Brahmins have their origin in the shepherds who moved east from the west. The ancient system of Yagas were the only process of eating cooked food which is probably a transition from green vegetables and raw meat and also the eating of the corns straight from the stump.
While the Arabs ate camel meat, the riders of middle east ate their horses by doing Asawa Metha Yagam. Far west they did not eat snake as they were afraid of poisonous meat, while far west it became a matter of necessity. When Indians prohibited beef because live cows and bulls were more useful, they found a way of reducing their reproduction by castrating the majority of the male of the species. This modus operandi may be used by humans too increase the working hours of the female of the species who take almost six month holiday every two or three years
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| Nov 05, 2009 8:44 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
padmanabhan ramasubban | | Charu,
Suggesting castrating the human male in the same way they castrated bulls in ancient times .
Oh ! wow ! That would be the most elborate way to torture and would compete with the methods of Marquis De Sade.
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| Nov 05, 2009 9:46 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
SOEB FATEHI | | why go to Europe, PR? is TN wanting?
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| Nov 05, 2009 10:23 pm | | re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Zain Alvi | | Dear Charu,
I have read your email and I am not here to comment on other religion.
With regards to Islam, I would like to share that your assumption on Islam is based due to lack of complete knowledge of the Religion.
As every manufacturer supplies a manual with the product to understand how the product has to be uses....so the CREATOR of the world has provided holy books to guide us through all kind of situation and how do we live our life on a daily basis...Is a different matter we dont review the same as we review other materials like Gossip magazines etc etc.
Islam is the only religion according to research by International Scientist that gives you clear direction on the minutes things even like how to sleep, what to do when etc...(its that many of muslims dont invest time to learn Islam ...and do their own things therefore you see violations etc which effect us ...this is not the topic here)
I think I would suggest you to go through the link to understand the religions
http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=146&Itemid=129 (Hinduism)
http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127&Itemid=100 (Christianity)
Regards
Zain
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| Nov 06, 2009 12:04 am | | re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Francis Saviour | | Hi Charu Hasan and others,
I feel we are not the authority to comment on this Universal Energy which is present every where and has different names like Prana, Ki, Chi, Holy Spirit etc and many of us referes it as GOD.
We are all spiritual beings with human exisitance.
We are unaware of our own potential which is unlimited and holds good for each and everyone of us.
We search for GOD when it is present in our own self.
We search for Love which is always there within you. Love is something that you should give and it starts from you first but everyone is in serch of it.
As there is some reference about eating here, I wish to write about our food habits as I am into WELLNESS Consultation and It is our food and living habits that is the root cause of all the DIS-EASE today.
Regarding eating meat, We should understand that we humans are Fruiterians and our body is designed by nature to eat fruit which is a predigested food.
We have made a habit of eating anything and everything and just waste our energy to get it digested ( Our body needs a lot of energy to digest any solid food that we eat.)
Even milk is not suitable for human consumption.
Milk is produced by mamals to feed their young ones. No animal once it grows to a certain stage drinks its milk but only we humans give this contract to Cow, Buffelo, Goat etc.
A cows milk has high level protien which humans don't need and cannot digest. Eg. A Calf after birth doubles it weight in just 3 weeks and grows up to 200kg as an adult. A human baby after its birth doubles it weight in 6 months and grows an average of 70-75 kg as an Adult.
Please think about this logic - If cows can produce milk by just eating grass then why can't human's get the same energy from fruits n vegetables.
With Healthy Regards,
Francis
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| Nov 06, 2009 1:11 am | | re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
SOEB FATEHI | | Islam is often unnecessarily confused with Mohammedansim (whatever that means) and Arabia . . .
"And every people had a Prophet..." Holy Qur'an (10:47)
"And certainly We raised in every people a Prophet" Holy Qur'an (16:36)
"And there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them" Holy Qur'an (35:24)
"And We did not send any Prophet but with the language of the people, so that he might explain to them..." Holy Qur'an (14:4)
ironically . . . many Muslims are more confused than others!
i repeat what i have said before . . . article of faith!
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| Nov 06, 2009 1:48 am | | re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Zain Alvi | | Dear Shoaib,
Agree with you in totality.
Zain
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| Nov 06, 2009 2:05 am | | re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
sujatha suresh | | I can't fully comment about the Rationale behind RPs(Religious Practices)... as some make a lot of sense to me, may not ring as part of religion tho'... Say 'Ekadashi- on this particular day the gravity is lowest and so, one can fast very comfortably..." Actually, this is a healthy way to cleanse ones' interior.....
In the same breath, I would like to speak of the habit In muslims, while sitting in Namaz.... helps digestion and keeps one in a state of Grace and Humble-ness... ( I do mention Humble-ness with awareness...actually they both are different...Humble-ness and Humility)...
Guys relax, at least am not as challenging as Charu who says, "Put ur hands up"...Imagine all cnkers putting their hands up in front of their respective comps and ...What will the people around think?....hahaha
One more thought I wish to share is, this is one topic that brought ZA and others, from behind the screen reading to actually posting (a Li'le punning if am allowed, ZA, a real change I say... all this while you have been reading and maintained silence, well times have changed it seems, as your letters seem to say 'Z' to 'A'...WOW,Charu you did it again!)
Good going Charu, you are another Kind of Success.....
SS
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| Nov 06, 2009 6:50 am | | re: re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
Ganesh Ram | | Many of our rituals are based on necessities to survive at some point of time in the life of any religion. It was also based on forming cohesive societies, probably due to settling down from being nomads/wanderers.
Coming to the concept of God, there are two things I usually say. In Thamizh one of the word equivalent is
kadavuL - that which resides within oneself
Also the word equivalent for human is
AsAmi - where sAmi is another word for God. In thamizh the same is written in four characters. mathematically speaking then 3/4 of every human is GOD.
Like Mohan has said, the vedic and some preset day brahmins are meat eaters. soma drinkers (hmmmm Sommelier the word in english is related to wine as well).
Many of the latter gods in hinduism are part of conservation. In fact we would have started as eating fish, and would have ended being cannibals and therefore dasaAvatar.
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| Nov 06, 2009 12:14 pm | | re: re: re: Rationale behind religious practices | # |
charu hasan | | dear Francis Xaviour,
Please read my post again and make another angry comment. I shall try to rethink on my views. Blind faith is a good practice to one self, but not to people at large
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