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Nov 10, 2009 12:37 amCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Mike Fesler
Updated: Sat., Nov. 7, 2009, 12:44 PM
Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror
By RALPH PETERS

Last Updated: 12:44 PM, November 7, 2009

Posted: 3:25 AM, November 7, 2009

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/call_this_horror_by_its_name_islamist_HT78Wt6NkWoCGq5HIOwlII


On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting, "Allahu akbar!" ("God is great!") committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Fort Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of nondenominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it's an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit -- well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won't. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there's no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won't. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won't. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops -- despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn't killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There'll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn't dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he'll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn't the sole guilty party. The US Army's unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Fort Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it's appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Fort Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would've been gone with the simoom. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. At least 38 people were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don't roll in this maggot's chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There's another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist wacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who've been assigned to his care? And he's not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I'm ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We've already heard from the terrorist's family that "he's a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she's becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we're assured that "Islam's a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration's nonresponse to the Fort Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

Ralph Peters' latest novel is "The War After Armageddon."


M.


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Nov 10, 2009 1:13 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

ANAND BANGARPET
"Appeasement" has become the Key word in Politics. This has become a universal pheomenon and we are forced to live through this.

Anand


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Nov 10, 2009 1:34 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Ron Sam
The latest news I heard this PM on SAT radio was that Hasan is conscious now, out of the coma and recovering. He will be tried in a military tribunal not a court of law. Much more evidence of his ties and contact with dubious sorts will come out.

I am amazed that he was able to do the amount of damage with just two handguns. I wonder how he did it? Was there reloads going on, could they have stopped him quicker? Many questions on the logistics and reactions or lack of.

Much worst is the lack of concern for this act of terror on our military men by BHO and the media who don't report everything.


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Nov 10, 2009 1:35 amre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Richard "The Eagle" Motivator
So True. I said when it first happened that it was going to come out that the act was going to found out to be an Act of terrorism.




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Nov 10, 2009 1:53 amre: re: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Denis Gibbon
From the responses I have had on another network it seems that Americans don't mind becoming an Islamic State. I have to say that there is a lot of beauty in Islam, but I wonder if the Americans could adjust to Sharia Law. I wish them the best .

Denis Gibbon.


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Nov 10, 2009 2:02 amre: re: re: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Denis Gibbon
Oh, I forgot to mention terrorism. According to Prof. Chomsky, The USA are the leading terrorists in the world.

Denis Gibbon.


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Nov 10, 2009 1:02 pmCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror: / The Army Soldier stood before God:#

Mike Fesler
The Army Soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.

'Step forward now, Soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?'

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
'No, Lord, I guess I ain't.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can't always be a saint.

I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.
But, I never took a penny,
That wasn't mine to keep....
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.

And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.

I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.
If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand.

There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the Soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

'Step forward now, you Soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell.'

~Author Unknown~

M.


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Nov 10, 2009 2:14 pmre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror: / The Army Soldier stood before God:#

Ron Sam
http://3.ly/6YT
http://3.ly/6YT

It's not just the Fort Hood terrorist shooting by an irate psychiatrist who felt he was going to meet Allah.

It's about morality and the current US administration that has run a muck ...

[...]
America has moved from "Common Sense," as Thomas Paine described, to... what?

9-11 & now, Fort Hood... Abortion Holocaust... Proposed Sovereignty giveaways... Redistribution (read, "thievery") of American weatlh... Obamunism...

Surely, this was not what was intended for America. Then, what was intended for our nation?

Liberty demands definition. What are our universal principles, so we may re-establish them, rather than the arbitrary and ephemeral judgments, inflicted upon us by whomever gains power?

Can America return to a truer, dynamic, spiritual core that provided our Founding Fathers the direction and motivation which brought our nation into existence?
[...]


The link above is to a mp3 discussing this topic -

America's Founding Principles vs. Today's USA



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Nov 10, 2009 4:03 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror: / The Army Soldier stood before God:#

Ron Sam
More fishy stuff going on

http://3.ly/MvB

Is Ft. Hood a cover-up, another false flag al Qaeda terror attack?
November 9, 9:46 PM Grand Rapids Ron Paul Examiner Geoff Linsley


Yet another tragedy has turned into seemingly the biggest news of the decade by our wonderful mainstream media. Twelve people died and thirty-one were wounded in the purported “terrorist” attack last week. These deaths and injuries should never be minimized, but it is our public responsibility to investigate and challenge the official story if it looks fishy.
The first extremely fishy aspect of the attack is that there were initially five attackers, not just one “radical” Muslim, Nidal Malik Hasan. That number then fell to three. The two extra attackers were then “cleared” and were driven away in U.S. Government Crown Victorias.

It was then manufactured by the mainstream media that Hasan was an expert marksman, making him look like a professional killer. This propaganda was soon rebuked when Hasan’s cousin reported to Fox News, saying “He wasn’t even someone who enjoyed going to the firing range.” More troubling is that the official story was that Hasan hit/injuried forty-three people in three minutes with a handgun. It would definitely require a decent marksman in order to seek out and shoot that many people in that amount of time. Some of the victims were shot more than once, too. Another overlooked fact is that, unless a shooter is particularly adept at reloading, it would also take a while in the transition between rounds. Fox News later changed the story up and said two guns were used, the other being a semi-automatic.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone told the mainstream media that he heard rumors that the witnesses of the attacks heard Hasan yell out “Allah Akbar” – God is great – before going on his rampage. None of these supposed witnesses have come out and admitted to hearing this, yet.

The attack happened at the Soldier Readiness Processing Center in Ft. Hood, where troops wait to see doctors before being deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, conveniently giving the wars more credence. Furthermore, the zone where the attack took place was a gun-free zone. Now how on Earth did a foreign firearm get into a gun-free zone in the biggest and one of the most important military bases in the U.S.?

The FBI claimed to have been tracking him for six months because of some anti-American, pro-Muslim Facebook postings. Hasan was a man who vocally wanted out of the military, even offering to pay back medical school costs to do so. A few days later another twist emerged: ABC reported that Hasan was also known by the FBI to have been trying to contact al Qaeda for six months. If so, the military simultaneously promoted Hasan: to Major in May. Wow, does that smell fishy!

Another disturbing fact is that Hasan was part of a Washington task force to advise Obama regarding Security Priorities. I’m not lying, he’s right there.


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Nov 10, 2009 4:33 pmre: re: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror: / The Army Soldier stood before God:#

Ron Sam
SOA on Dr. Hasan's biz card (Soldier of Allah) = red flag ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpML68RnR1A


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Nov 10, 2009 7:04 pmre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Ed and Yvonne Servis
Mike
A footnote to your article, and this is may be too graphic for some to read
"Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane" This turns out to be true. Malik filed a complaint because someone called him "A CAMMEL JOCKEY". This would drive even the best of us over the edge. How's that for an excuse?
Ed


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Nov 10, 2009 10:21 pmCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Mike Fesler
SWT =
Subhanahu wa-ta'ala is an Islamic Arabic phrase meaning, "glorious and exalted is He (Allah)." The phrase (often abbreviated to "swt") appears after the name of Allah in Islamic texts such as the Qur'an and the Hadith. Saying this phrase is seen as an act of reverence and devotion towards Allah among Muslims.

M.


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Nov 10, 2009 11:07 pmre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Ron Sam

Hasan calling card

Excerpted from here

Now look at the card. Notice the SoA on the card? Soldiers of Allah. Followed by SWT, an abbreviation that usually follows the word Allah.

When writing the name of God (Allah), Muslims often follow it with the abbreviation "SWT." These letters stand for the Arabic words "Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala," or "Glory to Him, the Exalted." Muslims use these or similar words to glorify God when mentioning His name.

Definition: When writing the name of God (Allah), Muslims often follow it with the abbreviation "SWT." These letters stand for the Arabic words "Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala," or "Glory to Him, the Exalted." Muslims use these or similar words to glorify God when mentioning His name.
Pronunciation: sub-han'-a-hoo wa ta a la
Also Known As: Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
Alternate Spellings: subhana wa ta'ala; subhanna wa ta'ala
Examples:

Muslims believe that Allah SWT created the universe.



who mispells "health" on their business card
?

some diversity selectee with a $150,000 US taxpayer-paid medical school education

http://africanpress.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/obama-bows-for-the-king.jpg
OBAMA: "Oh, and Thank You for MY SOA card. It's very nice!" 
Rap group:
Soldiers of Allah - 1924


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 11, 2009 2:13 amre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Rohit Kamatar
Guys,

These muslims are nothing but psychopants and will stoop to any level in the name of islam or allah. They take advantage of democratic govt.'s and democratic political systems by gaining sympathy from one political party (typically the democrats or moderates). With backing from the middle east including Saudi Arabia and a massive financial clout, their only ideologue is to promote islam at any cost be it by forcibly converting people (includes rape), deceiving women and others, killing including children etc.

I request you not to give even a single ounce of benefit of doubt to these psychos else you will find yourselves in the same mess as you find India in today. America was immune to these muslim zealots for several centuries given the vast distance between itself and the middle east where the muslims are concentrated, but over the last few decades, given the convenience of flights and improved navigation, the menace has reached American mainland too.

Thanks!

- Rohit


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Nov 11, 2009 5:29 amCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Mike Fesler
What are some thinking?

Please see:

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1363wmv&ak=null

M.


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Nov 11, 2009 11:34 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Peter Boaz Jones
It is always terribly tragic when something like this happens and clearly the USA has many other similar ones, one months ago at a school, and even another office shooting of late as well as the execution of the person who shot randomly at people at a gas station.

Nevertheless, in all fairness to President Obama, he has conceded to Israel’s house building projects, and is to ask members of Nato to provide up to 4,000 more troops to help to break the deadlock in Afghanistan.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
http://beliefsystemsgodspirituality-network.ryze.com
Author of The Gospel of the Four
http://www.new-millennium.co.uk


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Nov 11, 2009 9:03 pmCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Mike Fesler
Peter,
With all do respect.

Do not try to equate those other attacks with the religious fueled attacks of this culturally deficient coward hiding behind a US uniform. They are totally different.

It is like trying to call Bald a hair color.

The only similarities were that guns were used, people died. The (prior incidents) motivation was not fueled by religion that is government supported.

This was an attack fueled by this extremists religion. Did you watch the clip from the interview above? I think that he stated it quite succinctly and as elegant as I have ever heard.

If this Murdering coward hiding behind a US uniform was paid a handsome some of money (salary) and was so mentally deficient? Then his patients should seek restitution not only from him personally? But from the government as well. As He is and will remain GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. Until he hopefully receives the firing squad.

M.


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Nov 11, 2009 10:06 pmre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Ron Sam

Nidal Hasan explains the Koran and Islam

Here is Nidal Hasan's PowerPoint presentation about Islam, Muslims, and the military. Note the copious quoting of the Koran; the explanation of the doctrine of abrogation (citing Koran 2:106 and 16:101), which usually Islamic apologists in the West dismiss as an invention of "Islamophobes"; and the explanations of defensive and offensive jihad.

Islamic spokesmen in the U.S., if anyone asks them to comment on this at all, will dismiss it as an "extremist" interpretation of Islam and claim that no Muslims in the U.S., not one, believe in this understanding of Islam. But I guarantee you that none of the, not one, will offer a specific alternative explanation of the verses he cites, or of his doctrine of jihad, or of his understanding of Islam.

If anyone does come across an attempt, or the appearance of an attempt, to refute Nidal Hasan's Koranic exegesis, please send it to me at director[at]jihadwatch.org, and I will happily feature and discuss it here.  [Robert Spencer]

UPDATE: Here is a pdf of the slides

Fort Hood: Hasan warns military against Muslims fighting Muslims
In speech at Walter Reed Army Medical Center Hasan lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats to military



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Nov 15, 2009 2:26 amre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror:#

Christina Daly
I believe this is a mental health case; not terrorism. We've seen such an upsurge of these mass killings throughout the USA over the past couple of decades. Wonder why?

Chris Daly


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Nov 15, 2009 2:58 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Peter Boaz Jones
Long time no see Christina. Thank you for putting this in its true perspective and proper balance. I read the exchanges, and I have to say that it reveals a remarkable lack of tolerance on both sides, which only fuels the problem. It also puts a question mark against some people’s Christianity and the values they preach.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
http://beliefsystemsgodspirituality-network.ryze.com
Author of The Gospel of the Four
http://www.new-millennium.co.uk


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Nov 15, 2009 8:37 amCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Mike Fesler
Well. . . let me see here.

Lack of tolerance, and now questionable Christianity and Questionable values. ;-)

Yes. . . I agree. . . I do think that it is a mental problem.

It is total insanity on our part to think that this problem will go away by doing nothing.

FYI:

Score card:

3,308 killed by Muslims in America in 65 terror attacks

1 Muslim killed in Hate crime attack. (vigilante violence)

Now this doesn’t take in consideration the many mass murderers that were thwarted by the FBI and other departments in place to protect us (from these peaceful people).

Do you see a slight problem here?

You wonder why these attacks are happening? You wonder why it is on the upswing of occurrence?

In one word. . . . Lack
Lack of common sense.
Lack of recognition of a problem.
Lack of accountability.
Lack of a spine to stand up to wrongdoing.
Lack of survival drive.
Lack of value of life.

Now I do consider myself a practicing Christian, as well as many others here.
I will turn the other cheek.
I do not consider myself a pacifist target.
I will not present both cheeks while my head is buried in the sand.

What is it going to take before the SP’s out there realize that we have a problem, and it is from within?
We are allowing the inmates to take over the asylum. We are becoming too afraid to be called everything in the book that the SP’s can throw at the ones that want to survive in peace.

As for me? My only difference? (Yes there are others as well Thank God !!)

I am willing to stand up and call evil, wrongdoing, and subversion for what it is. If that bothers you. . . . or if it even makes you the least bit uncomfortable?

Then I suggest that you ask yourself why?

What is lacking in you?

What is lacking in you that you cannot or will not recognize that there is a problem growing uncontrollably?

What are you lacking? That you first strike out and degrade those that recognize the fore mentioned and have the intestinal fortitude to stand in the face of it and finally say; not only STOP, but We need to fix the problem for our future. . . . any future that we expect to have and to leave as a legacy.

FACTS:
You cannot remove hate from the world. And believe it or not; everything that feels good? . . . isn’t.

You can start to educate those that only want to take what you have, and destroy due to their generational indoctrination.

I truly want to understand, I want to tolerate . . . to a point. But this point is not at the end of a knife held to my throat just before beheading me or my loved ones.

If I let it get to that point? It has gone too far. Then all I have to blame is myself.

Poor stewardship of my family?
Poor stewardship of my Country?
Poor stewardship of fellow man.

So call us what you want. . . .
Because unless we all fold and become tolerant to the point that we are forced to become subservient, we will still be here diligently trying, . . . still be here working for a better world.

Infidel Mike



Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 15, 2009 9:38 amCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Mike Fesler
John Stewart Mill said, "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

And You wonder why these attacks are happening? You wonder why it is on the upswing of occurrence?

The former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave
a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound
as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He
said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too
rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in
history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all
great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would
show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or
multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can
survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing
languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be
bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of
bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories
of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malyasia, Lebanon all
face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy,
if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed
an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and
Corsicans."

Lamm went on: "Invent 'multi-culturalism' and encourage immigrants to
maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all
cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make
it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due
to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation
is out of bounds.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort.
The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz
said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own
multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by
tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated
ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with
only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would
encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would
replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is
important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in
America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans,
emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least
educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated,
and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass
have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and
business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic
identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all
minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I
would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the
majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and
promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would
stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are
mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing
each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical
precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together.
Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the
same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they
worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A
common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not
strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical
conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus
Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the
emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America
as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to
talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word
similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and
paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'zenophobe' halt discussion and
debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/ bicultural country, having established
multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of
'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration
laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for
America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant
sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound
silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson
Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to
destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read
that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud
above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew
that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly,
darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion
is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our
educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that
practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate
'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a
Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to
date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of
George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in
the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and
"Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is
deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this monster stopped it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 15, 2009 11:13 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Peter Boaz Jones
Clearly, as Christina so succinctly pointed out one man’s sole sickness does not constitute a terrorist attack, and is on the same lines as all the other shootings by other individuals that have occurred of late and in the past, terrible though it might be.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
http://beliefsystemsgodspirituality-network.ryze.com
Author of The Gospel of the Four
http://www.new-millennium.co.uk


Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 15, 2009 2:41 pmCall this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Mike Fesler
Tell that to the survivors left behind.

What is the correct term then? An accident? Or maybe an incident? Maybe a misunderstanding?

The courts will provide the full Due diligence and discovery of Guilt or innocents.

Something that I may point out to observe how it is addressed, is that the suspected perpetrator? (the murdering coward hiding in a US uniform) Is a trained practicing psychologist.

Is there anyone else better in portraying a mentally ill person? He was so mentally ill that he lawyered up as soon as he could. Poor guy. . .

The warning signs were there but dismissed in the quest of diversity. Or should I say in the fear of political correctness and the wrath that ensues if accused of not being.

The intent. . . . whether insane or not will be the point of no return for the (the murdering coward hiding in a US uniform) suspected perpetrator.

I would like to think that he has the excuse of being mentally ill. For me anyway, (maybe not the victims and the surviving family) it would better explain the actions.

But it sure is peculiar that a lot of those mentally ill? Are consistently saying the same words publicly over, and over again. And it doesn’t seem to be limited to any geographical arena. Not limited to any socioeconomic class.

The words that they spouse?
"Allah akbar!"

M.




Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 15, 2009 4:37 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Ron Sam
Dear Liberal minds,

re: Clearly, as Christina so succinctly pointed out one man’s sole sickness does not constitute a terrorist attack, and is on the same lines as all the other shootings by other individuals that have occurred of late and in the past, terrible though it might be.

How blind a statement is that?

This says it for me, that there is no, repeat no refutation on Nidal Hasan's action as being nothing other than a jihad, by the Muslim people in this country or any other, period! What that means to me is that they are so devolved with guilt of a jihad, a holy war waged by Muslims against infidels, it means nothing to them. Therefore, I stand with Robert Spencer (of Jihad Watch.org) on this issue.

He said:
""If anyone does come across an attempt, or the appearance of an attempt, to refute Nidal Hasan's Koranic exegesis, please send it to me at director[at]jihadwatch.org, and I will happily feature and discuss it here. [Robert Spencer]""

I brought up in another way on my Facebook wall and that was:
... On another note, why hasn't the so call 'good Muslims' stood up in numbers to denounce this jihad shooting? If there are 'good Muslims' that don't believe in jihad, why aren't they forming a Million Muslim March in DC to make known their solidarity?

Peter commented: It's the press. Political and social engineering.

I thought I was pretty clear until I read Peter's comment.


Can you imagine the amount of attention there would be if the opposite was to happen? Say a Muslim jihad infiltrator from the West, let out fire and killed and injured an equal number of people in their camp?

First, there would be no trial and second the so call holy war would be in full swing from that point on.

Ron


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 15, 2009 4:50 pmre: re: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Ron Sam
When I read this, I asked, 'how stupid is the public to believe this baloney?'

.... A joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI learned late last year of Hasan's repeated contact with the cleric, who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. The FBI said the task force did not refer early information about Hasan to superiors because it concluded he wasn't linked to terrorism ....

ref:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iwYEFasV3WqznkJoN2-BwTxAN4fgD9BV8RHG1



Here is an more poignant message:


To our Broward members,

Last year, Lt. Colonel Adam West was a guest speaker at our membership meeting. We will be honored to have attend again this year,so he can receive the same standing ovation we gave him at that time.




“Tragedy at Ft Hood”

Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret)



This past Thursday 13 American Soldiers were killed and another 30 wounded at a horrific mass shooting at US Army installation, Ft Hood Texas . As I watched in horror and then anger I recalled my two years of final service in the Army as a Battalion Commander at Ft Hood, 2002-2004.

My wife and two daughters were stunned at the incident having lived on the post in family housing.

A military installation, whether it is Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, or Coast Guard, is supposed to be a safe sanctuary for our Warriors and their families. It is intended to provide a home whereby our “Band of Brothers and Sisters” can find solace and bond beyond just the foxhole but as family units.

A military installation is supposed to be a place where our Warriors train for war, to serve and protect our Nation. On Thursday, 5 November 2009 Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism.

There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America , an Army post.

We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called; “pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)” is unconscionable.

This is not a “man caused disaster”. It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack.

We have seen this before in 2003 when a SGT Hasan of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) threw hand grenades and opened fire into his Commanding Officer’s tent in Kuwait . We have seen the foiled attempt of Albanian Muslims who sought to attack Ft Dix, NJ. Recently we saw a young convert to Islam named Carlos Bledsoe travel to Yemen, receive terrorist training, and return to gun down two US Soldiers at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army recruiting station. We thwarted another Islamic terrorist plot in North Carolina which had US Marine Corps Base, Quantico as a target.

What have we done with all these prevalent trends? Nothing.

What we see are recalcitrant leaders who are refusing to confront the issue, Islamic terrorist infiltration into America , and possibly further into our Armed Services. Instead we have a multiculturalism and diversity syndrome on steroids.

Major Hasan should have never been transferred to Ft Hood, matter of fact he should have been Chaptered from the Army. His previous statements, poor evaluation reports, and the fact that the FBI had him under investigation for jihadist website posting should have been proof positive.

However, what we have is a typical liberal approach to find a victim, not the 13 and 30 Soldiers and Civilian, but rather the poor shooter. A shooter who we are told was a great American, who loved the Army and serving his Nation and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) stating that his actions had nothing to do with religious belief.

We know that Major Hasan deliberately planned this episode; he did give away his possessions. He stood atop a table in the confined space of the Soldier Readiness Center shouting “Allahu Akhbar”, same chant as the 9-11 terrorists and those we fight against overseas in the Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operation.

No one in leadership seems willing to sound the alarm for the American people; they are therefore complicit in any future attacks. Our Congress should suspend the insidious action to vote on a preposterous and unconstitutional healthcare bill and resolve the issue of “protecting the American people”.

The recent incidents in Dearborn Michigan , Boston Massachusetts , Dallas Texas , and Chicago Illinois should bear witness to the fact that we have an Islamic terrorism issue in America . And don’t have CAIR call me and try to issue a vanilla press statement; they are an illegitimate terrorist associated organization which should be disbanded.

We have Saudi Arabia funding close to 80% of the mosques in the United States , one right here in South Florida, Pompano Beach . Are we building churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia ? Are “Kaffirs” and “Infidels” allowed travel to Mecca ?

So much for peaceful coexistence.

Saudi Arabia is sponsoring radical Imams who enter into our prisons and convert young men into a virulent Wahabbist ideology….one resulting in four individuals wanting to destroy synagogues in New York with plastic explosives. Thank God the explosives were dummy. They are sponsoring textbooks which present Islamic centric revisionist history in our schools.

We must recognize that there is an urgent need to separate the theo-political radical Islamic ideology out of our American society. We must begin to demand surveillance of suspected Imams and mosques that are spreading hate and preaching the overthrow of our Constitutional Republic……that speech is not protected under First Amendment, it is sedition and if done by an American treason.

There should not be some 30 Islamic terrorist training camps in America that has nothing to do with First Amendment, Freedom of Religion. The Saudis are not our friends and any American political figure who believes such is delusional.

When tolerance becomes a one way street it certainly leads to cultural suicide. We are on that street. Liberals cannot be trusted to defend our Republic, because their sympathies obviously lie with their perceived victim, Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

I make no apologies for these words, and anyone angered by them, please, go to Ft Hood and look into the eyes of the real victims. The tragedy at Ft Hood Texas did not have to happen. Consider now the feelings of those there and on every military installation in the world. Consider the feelings of the Warriors deployed into combat zones who now are concerned that their loved ones at home are in a combat zone.

Ft Hood suffered an Islamic jihadist attack, stop the denial, and realize a simple point.

The reality of your enemy must become your own.

Steadfast and Loyal,

Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret)


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 16, 2009 3:16 amre: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Peter Boaz Jones
Really the comments relating to terrorism should categorically be on another thread as no one is saying this was not a sick and tragic terrible act. But, hijacking a post that dealt with an individual’s mental disposition and putting it into a mix of global extremism only confuses the issue and no Court of Law would ever entertain such tactics in establishing whether he worked on his own through his own mixed up decisions.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 16, 2009 3:29 amre: re: Call this horror by its name: Islamist terror?#

Peter Boaz Jones
From The Times November 13, 2009

Who really shot the Fort Hood

Chris Ayres in Los Angeles

It was a feel-good hero story that for several days gave Americans some comfort after the murder of 13 soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas.

But like so many war stories — including the infamous rescue of Private Jessica Lynch during the 2003 invasion of Iraq — the exact details of how last Thursday’s mass shooting at Fort Hood was brought to a violent end are growing more murky by the day.

Initially it was claimed that a slightly-built female police officer, Sergeant Kimberly “Mighty Mouse” Munley, opened fire on the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, and kept shooting even after being hit three times.

But at least one witness now claims that Sergeant Munley, 35, was in fact hit by Major Hasan before she had time to get off a single round, and that it was her partner, Senior Sergeant Mark Todd — a 42-year-old African-American — who actually felled the man now charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. The witness, whose account was reported in The New York Times, declined to give his or her name.

Other official statements on the day of the shooting have also turned out to be wildly inaccurate, including a claim that Major Hasan had been killed. “I would caution anyone from speculating about who did what until the investigation is complete,” said Chris Grey, a spokesman for the US Army’s criminal investigation division, at a press conference at the military base last night.

Mr Grey confirmed, however, that “both [police oficers] engaged the suspect” and that Major Hasan “did not have a scheduled appointment” at Fort Hood’s Soldier Readiness Processing Centre, where the shooting began.

There are now suggestions that the US military — with the help of the media — helped to create a Hollywood script out of messy reality, perhaps in the hope that a tale about the Bruce Willis-style bravado of a mother-of-one would obscure less flattering headlines about army incompetence.

It has now emerged that Major Hasan, an army psychiatrist, had sent e-mails to a hardline imam — Anwar al-Aulaqi, an al-Qaeda sympathiser linked to two of the 9/11 hijackers — before the shooting spree. Although the FBI was reportedly aware of the e-mails, no action was ever taken.

Likewise, no red flags were raised in August when Major Hasan bought an FN Herstal tactical pistol from Guns Galore, a shop in the town of Killeen, even though he was subjected to an FBI background check. The check was reportedly not shared with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington, which knew about his e-mails to Anwar al-Aulaqi. Major Hasan’s supportive online postings about suicide bombers were also ignored.

As charges were officially made against Major Hasan yesterday, the Obama Administration issued a Presidential Memorandum demanding an “immediate inventory” of all intelligence in US government files relevant to the shooting. The President also ordered a review of how “any such intelligence was handled, shared, and acted upon within individual departments and agencies and what intelligence was shared with others”.

Meanwhile, Sergeants Todd and Munley, both members of Fort Hood’s civilian police force, made their first public comments on the shooting during Wednesday night’s edition of the Oprah Winfrey Show and yesterday morning’s Good Morning America. But they did not comment on the chronology of how the worst mass-shooting on a US military base ended.

“The entire incident was very confusing and chaotic,” said Sergeant Manley, who was washing her patrol car when she received an emergency call. “There were many people outside pointing to the direction this individual was apparently located, and as soon as I got out of my vehicle and ran up the hill is when things began getting really bad and we started encountering fire.”

Sergeant Todd, who turned up at the crime scene in a separate car, added: “When we first approached the scene there was a slight incline we had to go up. She broke to the right and I broke to the left and we both took cover. I gave [the suspect] commands — ‘halt, drop your weapon’ — and he fired on me. There was really no time to think. We just relied on our training. We’re trained to shoot until there is no longer a threat.”

The police officer added that after firing at the suspect, he rushed him, kicked away his gun, and handcuffed him. It was the first time in 25 years he’d had to use his weapon, he said.

When they were sure Major Hasan was no longer a threat, the officers began trying to save his life. The suspect is now at Brooke Army Medical Centre in San Antonio, where he is thought to be paralysed — and heavily sedated. He also now has a lawyer, retired Army Colonel John Galligan.

Army prosecutors are likely to seek the death penalty, even though the US military has not executed anyone after a court martial since 1961.

Asked about her recovery in hospital from three gunshot wounds, Sergeant Munley said: “I’m doing well. Every day is progress for me and things are getting better day by day and emotionally, I’m just hoping the rest of the officers and the families of the deceased are healing as well.”

She described the moment she was hit by one bullet as feeling as if the muscle was being ripped out of her leg.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6915033.ece?&EMC-Bltn=LLW971F

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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 16, 2009 5:54 amre: Call this horror by its name ...#

James Booth
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Dhiyaa Al-Musawi

A fine mind - listen to this man.

Pray for him.

Thanks, Mike


JB


Private Reply to James Booth

Nov 16, 2009 1:38 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name ...#

Ed and Yvonne Servis
I have been hearing a lot of nonsense about the Fort Hood shooter suffering from post tramatic stress. As one who has had to deal with this personally for a very long time I can tell you that people with this act out of fear or confrontation. The last thing in the world they will do is instigate confrontation, in fact they will go to extremes to avoid it. This guy went WAY out of his way to instigate this. If someone wants to use a psycological based excuse for these actions they need to do better than this. Maybe he wasn't always a jihadist but somewhere along the line he became one.
Ed


Private Reply to Ed and Yvonne Servis

Nov 17, 2009 9:09 amre: Call this horror by its name... murder#

Peter Boaz Jones
Maybe he wasn't always a murderer and a
professional psychiatrist but somewhere
along the line he became one. “Jihad”
is an Arabic noun meaning "struggle“ and
a personal spiritual struggle for self-
improvement and a religious duty of all
people who are striving to improve their
characters.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Author of The Gospel of the Four
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 17, 2009 3:04 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name... murder#

Ron Sam
Peter,
Why are you not giving the first definition of 'jihad'?
Let's call it what it is and not cover it with honey.

Google:
#1 a holy war waged by Muslims against infidels
#2 a holy struggle or striving by a Muslim for a moral or spiritual or political goal

From Dictionary.com:
–noun
1. a holy war undertaken as a sacred duty by Muslims.
2. any vigorous, emotional crusade for an idea or principle.


From Wiki on Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch
[...]
Spencer holds the view that "traditional Islam contains violent and supremacist elements," and that "its various schools unanimously teach warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers." He calls for Muslims to follow an interpretation of Islam that rejects violence and supremacism. Although he believes Islam has violent elements in its traditional teachings, he rejects the idea that all Muslims must necessarily be violent people as a misunderstanding of his position. He asserts that "Islam is not a monolith, and never have I said or written anything that characterizes all Muslims as terrorist or given to violence. I am only calling attention to the roots and goals of jihad violence. [...]


PBS
[...]Even the concept of defensive warfare is placed within the larger concept of jihad as striving for what is right. Though jihad might involve bloodshed, [...]
http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/ma_violence.shtml



Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 17, 2009 3:29 pmre: re: re: Call this horror by its name... murder#

Ron Sam
from Daniel Pipes

Jihad did have two variant meanings through the centuries, one more radical, one less so. The first holds that Muslims who interpret their faith differently are infidels and therefore legitimate targets of jihad. (This is why Algerians, Egyptians and Afghans have found themselves, like Americans and Israelis, so often the victims of jihadist aggression.) The second meaning, associated with mystics, rejects the legal definition of jihad as armed conflict and tells Muslims to withdraw from the worldly concerns to achieve spiritual depth.

Jihad in the sense of territorial expansion has always been a central aspect of Muslim life. That's how Muslims came to rule much of the Arabian Peninsula by the time of the Prophet Muhammad's death in 632. It's how, a century later, Muslims had conquered a region from Afghanistan to Spain. Subsequently, jihad spurred and justified Muslim conquests of such territories as India, Sudan, Anatolia, and the Balkans.

more here: http://www.danielpipes.org/990/what-is-jihad

===== Another viewpoint from Catholic.com =====

Endless Jihad
The Truth about Islam and Violence
http://www.catholic.com/library/endless_jihad.asp

Section under 'Ideology Meets History'
describes history proving jihad uses to expand territory ...


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 18, 2009 2:16 amre: Call this horror by its name... murder#

Peter Boaz Jones
Ron, I would not say it was the first
definition of 'jihad', but I mentioned
it as the most important.

I’ve tried to indicate that to judge
the sentence of the murderer by default
has to be left up to the Courts and the
Authorities, and to bring in facts
about extremist Islam which most are
aware of really should be on a separate
thread for discussion, not by hijacking
radical elements and putting it in a mix
on his case.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Author of The Gospel of the Four
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 18, 2009 4:43 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Ron Sam
Peter,
Belief in non-violent jihad is for the naive.

[...]
The Koran invites Muslims to give their lives in exchange for assurances of paradise.

The Hadith (accounts of Muhammad's actions and personal statements) elaborate on the Koran, providing specific injunctions about treaties, pay, booty, prisoners, tactics, and much else. Muslim jurisprudents then wove these precepts into a body of law.

Muhammad's conquests: During his years in power, the prophet engaged in an average of nine military campaigns a year, or one every 5-6 weeks; thus did jihad help define Islam from its very dawn. Conquering and humiliating non-Muslims was a main feature of the prophet's jihad.

The Arab conquests and after: During the first several centuries of Islam, "the interpretation of jihad was unabashedly aggressive and expansive." After the conquests subsided, non-Muslims hardly threatened and Sufi notions of jihad as self-improvement developed in complement to the martial meaning.

The Crusades, the centuries-long European effort to control the Holy Land, gave jihad a new urgency and prompted what Cook calls the "classical" theory of jihad. Finding themselves on the defensive led to a hardening of Muslim attitudes.

The Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century subjugated much of the Muslim world, a catastrophe only partially mitigated by the Mongols' nominal conversion to Islam. Some thinkers, Ibn Taymiya (d. 1328) in particular, came to distinguish between true and false Muslims; and to give jihad new prominence by judging the validity of a person's faith according to his willingness to wage jihad.

Nineteenth century "purification jihads" took place in several regions against fellow Muslims. The most radical and consequential of these was the Wahhabis' jihad in Arabia. Drawing on Ibn Taymiya, they condemned most non-Wahhabi Muslims as infidels (kafirs) and waged jihad against them.

European imperialism inspired jihadi resistance efforts, notably in India, the Caucasus, Somalia, Sudan, Algeria, and Morocco, but all in the end failed. This disaster meant new thinking was needed.

Islamist new thinking began in Egypt and India in the 1920s but jihad acquired its contemporary quality of radical offensive warfare only with the Egyptian thinker Sayyid Qutb (d. 1966). Qutb developed Ibn Taymiya's distinction between true and false Muslims to deem non-Islamists to be non-Muslims and then declare jihad on them. The group that assassinated Anwar El-Sadat in 1981 then added the idea of jihad as the path to world domination.

The anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan led to the final step (so far) in this evolution. In Afghanistan, for the first time, jihadis assembled from around the world to fight on behalf of Islam. Abdullah Azzam, a Palestinian, became the theorist of global jihad in the 1980s, giving it an unheard-of central role, judging each Muslim exclusively by his contribution to jihad, and making jihad the salvation of Muslims and Islam. Out of this quickly came suicide terrorism and bin Laden.
[...]

(Above is from the book "Understanding Jihad", David Cook of Rice University)
His work aims to answer the following question:
Which is the meaning of jihad? Holy war or spiritual striving to improve oneself?

http://3.ly/8qM Amazon Books, see comment section.





Ron


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 19, 2009 1:21 amre: re: re: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Christina Daly
Lynch mob mentality is a black mark in the history of the USA; right along with the Salem Witch Hunts and the Japanese Internment camps.

I agree, that we MUST leave this up to the rules of military law. It's good that our President asked for a complete investigation and that we can expect/demand complete transperancy. We are a country of laws, and once we forget that, we will descend into the exact primitive state we see in the Middle East.

It's certainly OK to express anger and fear, but I can't agree with the self righteous act of trying to lable this tragic incident before the facts are in. If, in fact, he was under the orders of a Jihadist group and the massacre was planned by them, then we can call it an act of terror. Until/unless that time I will be more fearful of those who seem to be spewing racist feelings which could result in complete mayhem...just what the enemy wants. We have many faithful Muslims who have served in our Country's military and given their lives for our Country; they must be scared out of their minds for themselves and their families. Please, let's not allow this to happen to innocent families. We're much more evolved and civilized than that....at least I hope so.

One last question: what exactly is an act of terror? Is it totally aligned with Islamist acts? Our wars aren't as black and white as they once were (when new knew the 'enemy') and our leaders are busily trying to capture the modern day truth. I say that we should pray for their wisdom as they address this underlying issue.

Change is scary; however, change is happening. If we don't learn and move forward, we will become irrelevant and ultimately perish.

I feel strongly about this, and fear for the enemy within.

Christina Daly


Private Reply to Christina Daly

Nov 20, 2009 12:52 pmre: re: re: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Ed and Yvonne Servis
Ron
I like this article. I wonder what would happen if the US and other countries pulled out completely from the Mid-East and other Muslim countries. Would they then focus their attention on killing each other? I guess most of the hate would still be directed at Israel, but what if they were not in the equasion. I see jihaad as a constant and endless war on humanity. As long as there is a Qu'ran there will always be war waged against those who are non jihadist and infidels including Muslims.
Ed


Private Reply to Ed and Yvonne Servis

Nov 20, 2009 8:26 pmre: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Ron Sam
The biggest controversy surrounding Maj. Hasan is that the Army knew about his radical Islamic sympathies, from the Walter Reed lecture and the monitored emails to the English-speaking, American-born Yemeni imam Anwar Awlaki, whose Facebook page, with a reported 4,800 "friends," is depicted nearby.
  There is no doubt to me that Hasan was a jihadist terrorist.
Ron

If it accomplished nothing else, the Obama administration's announcement last Friday to try 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in lower Manhattan blew the Nidal Hasan murders out of the news. The KSM fiasco deserves all the attention it gets. What Hasan represents, however, is a more immediate concern.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is an old-school jihadi. They sit in far-off redoubts, assembling terror teams of foreign nationals who now must figure out how to get themselves and their plot inside the U.S. Not impossible, but harder than before 9/11.

Hasan is new school. He is what's known as a homegrown terrorist. Virtually all the Islamic terrorist plots thwarted here in recent years were homegrown, not designed from afar by a KSM.


Daniel Henninger discusses how we should be worried about homegrown terrorists like Nidal Hasan who spend their time viewing violent Islamic Web sites.


The Fort Dix Six, convicted in December of conspiring to attack U.S. military personnel, were mainly ethnic Albanians whose family came to New Jersey in the 1980s.

Zakaria Amara, the leader of the Toronto 18, who were planning to blow up skyscrapers in Canada, was born in a Toronto suburb.

In testimony to Congress in September, the director of the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center, Mike Leiter, said the Somali terrorist group al-Shabaab includes "dozens of recruits from the Unites States," mostly ethnic Somalis.

How do individuals sitting in Colorado, New Jersey, Toronto or Texas suddenly transform into mass murderers for jihad? Most of the time, they become radicalized by spending vast amounts of time viewing violent Islamic Web sites run from abroad.

Two years ago, Lawrence Sanchez of the New York City Police Department's intelligence division told the Senate Homeland Security Committee that the Internet is "the most significant factor in the radicalization that is occurring in America." Mr. Sanchez described this process as "self-imposed brainwashing."

In New York Times reporter David Rohde's account of his captivity by the Taliban, he wrote that "watching jihadi videos" was his guards' favorite pastime. He describes them as "little more than grimly repetitive snuff films" of executions.

***

If you sit in the United States and watch this stuff 'round the clock—self-brainwashing—it is fully protected activity. It qualifies as "speech," protected by the panoply of First Amendment law. These protections exist nowhere else in the world.

The biggest controversy surrounding Maj. Hasan is that the Army knew about his radical Islamic sympathies, from the Walter Reed lecture and the monitored emails to the English-speaking, American-born Yemeni imam Anwar Awlaki, whose Facebook page, with a reported 4,800 "friends," is depicted nearby.

The argument is that the Army should have mustered him out of the service and thereby avoided the 13 murders. Really? After kicking him out of the Army, there was no probable cause for authorities to surveil a civilian Nidal Hasan. In time he as easily could have killed 13 Americans in a suburban Texas mall.

wlFacebook.

He has 4,800 Facebook 'friends.'

Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, as the judge presiding over the 1995 trial of the "blind sheikh," Omar Abdel Rahman, for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, had to instruct the jury that the sheikh's violent, "holy war" sermons at New York mosques were legal, protected activity (he was convicted of conspiracy).

There is a mosque in Manhattan at 96th Street and Lexington Avenue, on whose sidewalk one can hear adherents spouting support for violence against the U.S. That, too, is protected.

A violent ideology is just an ideology, and that is protected speech. It requires acts to put in motion aggressive surveillance, such as wiretapping.

I think the Hasan case shows this is wrong, or at least too dangerous. First Amendment law has never dealt with a widely distributed ideology that has as its raison d'être the mass murder of Americans and destruction of American property.

For now this is the way it is: Future Hasans can get jacked up all day on kill-the-Americans Web sites, and we have to wait until they put in motion a conspiracy like Fort Dix or the Colorado jihadists. Or until they start shooting.

Politics is the only recourse.

This is what the political fight was through the Bush years—fights over the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps of conversations between U.S. citizens and foreign suspects, using the SWIFT financial data system to track terrorist transfers (or, with KSM, military tribunals versus civil courts). The argument against these policies was that "our values" require that judges review and approve virtually all such activity.

The problem with this view is that "our values" were already protected to an unprecedented degree. Raising the bar higher is asking too much of the people assigned to catch all these self-radicalizing jihadists.

The Democrats have cast their lot with tighter restrictions. The past six years and a presidential campaign proved that. In the wake of Hasan's 13 dead people, revisiting the limits of our vulnerability has to be on the table in next year's congressional elections, and then a presidential election.

Write to henninger@wsj.com




Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 20, 2009 8:42 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Ron Sam
Some of Maj. Hasan's former colleagues at Walter Reed have said he was a subpar employee who expressed fervent Islamic beliefs that left them questioning his loyalty to the military.

link 


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 21, 2009 10:51 amre: Call this horror by its name... jihadist terrorism on military#

Peter Boaz Jones
I have to agree with Christina again when she leads in with “Lynch mob mentality is a black mark in the history of the USA; right along with the Salem Witch Hunts...” Though in war Interment Camps are necessary.

Britain and the US will only pull out of the Middle East and Afghanistan when the countries in question can rule and police themselves without opening the doors to terrorism inflicting casualties in the West.

Like 9/11 the Intelligence Services knew that something was going on and like Hasan they cannot always know precisely when individuals are going to strike, although there have been so many of these similar scenarios which have been nipped in the bud. Shit happens!

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 21, 2009 1:07 pmCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
Can anyone give me a countries name that did not have a lynch mob mentality at one point in their history?

It may be better said that Lynch mob mentality is a black mark in the history of mankind.

Unless you want to imply that everything the USA does and stands for is bad. Then you can go and stand with the other far left SP’s. You would be in good company though, NY Times and most of the other Lamestream media will be backing you then.

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 22, 2009 7:03 amre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Peter Boaz Jones

I was referring and implying to not jump to conclusions as Christina and I highlighted by agreeing that we should “leave this up to the rules of military law”, because “we are a country of laws, and once we forget that, we will descend into the exact primitive state we see (in some countries) in the Middle East”.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 22, 2009 7:52 amCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
Peter,
Agreed !!
Thank you for the clarification.

There should always be an implementation of investigative measures, as well as a judicial action after those findings have been thoroughly vetted. No matter how slight or grievous the occurrence.

Military law. . . . not constitutional law should be applied to this particular case.

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 22, 2009 9:30 amre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Ed and Yvonne Servis
I think the thing that irritates me most about all of this is the media bias. What if this were a member of the KKK or a pro life activist? It would be a different story I assure you. How about the medias treatment of Sarah Palin? Now imagine if Sarah Palin was a black woman or a Muslim. Would it be the same? I have a more than a strong feeling it wouldn't.
It is this joke of a news media that drives PC and the liberal judges appointed by liberal administrations along with the satanic ACLU that are at the root of the problem.
The Jihadist know full well how to exploit this PC and they will do it.
Ed


Private Reply to Ed and Yvonne Servis

Nov 22, 2009 11:06 amre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Peter Boaz Jones

Feelings aside, Sarah Palin will have her turn again if she chooses in a few years. Judges moreover only make judgements on the evidence put forward regardless of the labels of political persuasions, as they must be seen to be correct besides any outside influence.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 22, 2009 4:15 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Ron Sam
"Lynch mob mentality" is but yet another liberal attempt at political correctness in diversity which is totally out of sync with this nations' security measures against jihad actions.

What Is Political Correctness?
Political Correctness (PC) is the communal tyranny that erupted in the 1980s. It was a spontaneous declaration that particular ideas, expressions and behavior, which were then legal, should be forbidden by law, and people who transgressed should be punished.  It started with a few voices but grew in popularity until it became unwritten and written law within the community. With those who were publicly declared as being not politically correct becoming the object of persecution by the mob, if not prosecution by the state.

"But the emergence of Hitler, the conditions for his rise and his triumph, depended on circumstances far beyond the narrower framework of conditions in Germany. We need not mention Versailles, nor Munich, nor Moscow. We may confine ourselves to the common inner characteristics of which these and countless other comparable stages on the road were only symptoms: The turning away of almost all European powers from reason and realism; the disenchantment with traditional values and ethical standards, accompanied by a lack of will to defend any moral and legal principles whatever; a short sighted striving for advantage and security as well as, in particular, a susceptibility to illusion —the fatal characteristic of the epoch." —J.C. Fest 'The Face Of The Third Reich'.

In the late 1990s, the results of being bourgeois (retaining traditional notions), is being labeled racist, sexist etc. and risk losing your job, your reputation, being jostled in the street, being subject to judicial penalty and death threats. And it is this very extremity of reaction that has won media attention and the name Political Correctness, though the reaction will become even more unpleasant with the next generation.

The Inevitable Result Of Political Correctness
By using the excuse of not upsetting anyone, the politically correct are demanding that people behave like the fool who would please everyone; that everyone must become such a fool! All must accept the notions of the Politically Correct as truth, or else! This is the same mentality that inspired the Inquisition and forced Galileo to recant; the same mentality that inspired the Nazis and obtained the Holocaust. Once expression gets placed in a straitjacket of official truth, then the madness that occurs in all totalitarian states is obtained. Life, in private and public, becomes a meaningless charade where delusion thrives and terror rules.

Examples Of Denying Freedom Of Speech
Evidence of this effect is amply demonstrated by the Soviets, who embraced Political Correctness with the Communist Revolution. The lumbering, pompous, impoverished, humourless monster this Nation became is now History. And it should be remembered that in 1914 Tsarist Russia was considered by Edmund Cars, a French economist who then published a book about the subject, to be an economic giant set to overshadow Europe. The SBS television program "What Ever Happened To Russia", which was broadcast at 8.30 pm on 25th August 1994, detailed the terrible effect the Bolshevik's oppression had on their empire. And SBS further detailed the terrible crimes inflicted upon the Russians by their leader Stalin, in the series "Blood On The Snow" broadcast in March 1999.

Political Correctness Is Social Dementia
Unless plain speaking is allowed, clear thinking is denied. There can be no good reason for denying freedom of expression, there is no case to rebut, only the empty slogans of people inspired by selfishness and unrestrained by morality. The proponents of this nonsense neither understand the implications of what they say, nor why they are saying it: they are insane.

Social Decline Grows Worse With Each Generation
Political Correctness is part of the social decline that generation by generation makes public behaviour less restrained and less rational.

excerpted from: here





Political Correctness on Steroids

Wisdom from the mouth of a psychiatrist,
and this one is not a terrorist.


Explaining Away Mass Murder
By Charles Krauthammer Nov 13, 2009



WASHINGTON -- "What a surprise -- that someone who shouts 'Allahu Akbar' (the 'God is great' jihadist battle cry) as he is shooting up a room of American soldiers might have Islamist motives. It certainly was a surprise to the mainstream media, which spent the weekend after the Fort Hood massacre downplaying Nidal Hasan's religious beliefs.

'I cringe that he's a Muslim. ... I think he's probably just a nut case,' said Newsweek's Evan Thomas. Some were more adamant. Time's Joe Klein decried 'odious attempts by Jewish extremists ... to argue that the massacre perpetrated by Nidal Hasan was somehow a direct consequence of his Islamic beliefs.' While none could match Klein's peculiar cherchez-le-juif motif, the popular story line was of an Army psychiatrist driven over the edge by terrible stories he had heard from soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

They suffered. He listened. He snapped.

Really? What about the doctors and nurses, the counselors and physical therapists at Walter Reed Army Medical Center who every day hear and live with the pain and the suffering of returning soldiers? How many of them then picked up a gun and shot 51 innocents?

And what about civilian psychiatrists -- not the Upper West Side therapist treating Woody Allen neurotics, but the thousands of doctors working with hospitalized psychotics -- who every day hear not just tales but cries of the most excruciating anguish, of the most unimaginable torment? How many of those doctors commit mass murder?

It's been decades since I practiced psychiatry. Perhaps I missed the epidemic.

But, of course, if the shooter is named Nidal Hasan, whom National Public Radio reported had been trying to proselytize doctors and patients, then something must be found. Presto! Secondary post-traumatic stress disorder, a handy invention to allow one to ignore the obvious.

And the perfect moral finesse. Medicalizing mass murder not only exonerates. It turns the murderer into a victim, indeed a sympathetic one. After all, secondary PTSD, for those who believe in it (you won't find it in DSM-IV-TR, psychiatry's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual), is known as 'compassion fatigue.' The poor man -- pushed over the edge by an excess of sensitivity.

Have we totally lost our moral bearings? Nidal Hasan (allegedly) cold-bloodedly killed 13 innocent people. In such cases, political correctness is not just an abomination. It's a danger, clear and present.

Consider the Army's treatment of Hasan's previous behavior. NPR's Daniel Zwerdling interviewed a Hasan colleague at Walter Reed about a hair-raising Grand Rounds that Hasan had apparently given. Grand Rounds are the most serious academic event at a teaching hospital -- attending physicians, residents and students gather for a lecture on an instructive case history or therapeutic finding.

I've been to dozens of these. In fact, I gave one myself on post-traumatic retrograde amnesia -- as you can see, these lectures are fairly technical. Not Hasan's. His was an hour-long disquisition on what he called the Koranic view of military service, jihad and war. It included an allegedly authoritative elaboration of the punishments visited upon nonbelievers -- consignment to hell, decapitation, having hot oil poured down your throat. This 'really freaked a lot of doctors out,' reported NPR.

Nor was this the only incident. 'The psychiatrist,' reported Zwerdling, 'said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird?'

Was anything done about this potential danger? Of course not. Who wants to be accused of Islamophobia and prejudice against a colleague's religion?

One must not speak of such things. Not even now. Not even after we know that Hasan was in communication with a notorious Yemen-based jihad propagandist. As late as Tuesday, The New York Times was running a story on how returning soldiers at Fort Hood had a high level of violence.

What does such violence have to do with Hasan? He was not a returning soldier. And the soldiers who returned home and shot their wives or fellow soldiers didn't cry 'Allahu Akbar' as they squeezed the trigger.

The delicacy about the religion in question -- condescending, politically correct and deadly -- is nothing new. A week after the first (1993) World Trade Center attack, the same New York Times ran the following front-page headline about the arrest of one Mohammed Salameh: 'Jersey City Man Is Charged in Bombing of Trade Center.

Ah yes, those Jersey men -- so resentful of New York, so prone to violence."

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Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 22, 2009 6:47 pmCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
“Judges moreover only make judgments on the evidence put forward regardless of the labels of political persuasions, as they must be seen to be correct besides any outside influence.’

You may want to confer with the Brown and or the Goldberg families about that statement. Reference: OJ Simpson Murder case.

They may wear robes?. . . . . But for many of them. . . . that’s as close to God as they are ever going to get. The manipulation of the laws and blatant ignoring of the laws are becoming more and more prevalent with these judges suffering from the god complex. They (think they) are above the law. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

What about the legal loopholes that many criminals not only jump through. . . but are led through via The ACLU in many cases.

Yes. . . .
I feel safer now !!

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 23, 2009 10:39 amre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Peter Boaz Jones
Oh, it seems some have already set themselves up as judges, lawyers, and are even above the President and the system and, seem to be saying they know better than God, who allows the sons of people to rule in this world.

Some it seems are also impatient with God’s Natural Laws, like when O J Simpson was given enough rope, and see what’s happened to him. As we say, give enough rope to some people, and they will hang themselves.

And I see you are trusting in God. :-\ There's hope for us all.

Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones

Nov 23, 2009 6:51 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Ed and Yvonne Servis
Peter
This statement in theory is true but in reality is blatently false.
“Judges moreover only make judgments on the evidence put forward regardless of the labels of political persuasions, as they must be seen to be correct besides any outside influence.’

Liberal judges appointed by liberal polititions are making a joke out of our legal system. In many cases they have total disregard for our Constitution. If we are lucky their bad decisions get overturned by a higher court, legislation, or reforandum, but all of that takes time and in the meantime their sick decissions raise havic on some states and sometimes the country as a whole. Even the supreme court has a majority of liberals. The democrats do everything in their power to destroy any conservative Supreme Court nominees no matter what their qualifications. They have only one agenda which is abortion. We also have liberals like Bill Clinton who in one of his first acts as president fired all of the federal prosecuters appointed by his predicessors and replaced them with liberal lawyers.
Judges should be impartial of public opinion and administer the law not invent laws.
Ed


Private Reply to Ed and Yvonne Servis

Nov 24, 2009 3:14 amMike: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Christina Daly
And Bush/Cheney/Addington were such saints???? To me this forum is so much better when we address ideas rather than throw around personal and partisan accusations. What say?

What is justice in our society? What's it's purpose? Can human beings live in harmony as a group? How best can we address our enemies (without and within)?

Christina Daly


Private Reply to Christina Daly

Nov 24, 2009 7:10 amCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
Christina, you asked:

{{“And Bush/Cheney/Addington were such saints????”

Well. . . when history uncovers the truth. . . . (Not the rewritten crap that the Clinton admin and many others have tried to spin) we will see. They were men faced with un-before experienced circumstances. They responded out of poor intelligence,(world provided- from other countries as well) from our own shores, (thanks to prior administrations disassembling many of the operations and departments that were already in place and functioning, poorly. . . but functioning.)

Add just those factors up and you have a soup that will not taste too good. But the bottom line is the soup kept us alive for the rest of the administration. -0- attacks. Can the present admin (Messiah) say the same?

Sainthood? I would say that is a tough one to say yes too. But Messiah before he actually walks on water? Even though a Nobel prize is given. . . . he hasn’t warranted the prize or the praise. Definitely NOT !!

{{“ To me this forum is so much better when we address ideas rather than throw around personal and partisan accusations.”

Agreed !!
But there are some SP’s out there that want to have an in your face attitude about things, that many here and around the world have finally had their fill. And now will speak their mind verbalizing their opinions in the same manor. It is about time that many of us grow a spine and take back control of our country. To have the appointed leaders first ask what we the people want, and then act. Not ask us to serve them, and only their vision and needs. . . but for them to serve us.

((“What is justice in our society? What's it's purpose? Can human beings live in harmony as a group? How best can we address our enemies (without and within)?”

Great questions.
But remember. . . watch out what you are asking for. You may not like the answers.

The simple fact that everyone on this planet is not, will not, or can not, conform to a harmonious lifestyle? This means that we are faced with protecting all the rest of us that want that lifestyle. So we are faced with some tough questions as to how do we protect ourselves? What lengths to we go to remain safe?

What lengths do we go to remain successful? With constant blatant disregard to the harmonious lifestyle by the minority, (and the death toll mounting daily) Where do we call enough. . . enough?

Are we so dysfunctional that we do not realize or for that matter care to remember 9/11 and that they are already on someone else’s door step? So it will only matter when they are on our door step again? When they are finally in your own living room or bedroom?

Look at the person in the mirror and look deep within their eyes and ask what will that person starring back be willing to sacrifice? Not only to keep what they have left (Because we have lost much already, I am not talking about something as trivial as money. . . . I am talking about Loved ones, I am talking about lifestyles, I am talking about freedoms) but to have a future? Any kind of a future?

The answer is within that first person starring back in the mirror,. . . . .

the result is within us all.

M.






Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 24, 2009 9:44 amCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism / Who are we?#

Mike Fesler
All that is valuable in human society depends upon the opportunity for development accorded the individual.
Albert Einstein.

Who are we, to force others kicking and screaming into the 21st century if they wish to remain primitive?

Who are we, to allow others to stagnate us in our progressive quest for a better future?

Who are we, if we allow others to destroy not only what we once had . . . but what we will become?

Who are we, if we do not take a stand for us?

Who are we, really?

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Nov 24, 2009 6:03 pmre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism Connections#

Ron Sam
Ft. Hood Jihad, Yemen And The Obama Connection

Ft. Hood Jihad, Yemen And The Obama Connection

November 24, 2009 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Situated at the far southwestern tip of the Arabian peninsula, Yemen commands a strategic location, abutting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and taking up about 2/3rds of the troubled kingdom's southern [and porous] border.

Under pressure from U.S. forces in Afghanistan and Iraq and most recently [and somewhat reluctantly] in Pakistan, al-Qaeda has regrouped to a certain extent, strengthening an already existing base of operations in this largely lawless country.

The group operates with at least the acquiescence of Yemen's ineffectual central government, compounding both Western security considerations as well as representing a significant threat to the Saudi and other Mid Eastern governments.

Jihadi violence, directed against American targets of opportunity is nothing new in Yemen, for example in 2008 a car bomb attack was carried out against the U.S. Embassy in the capital city of Sanaa. State Dept. spokesman at the time Sean McCormack stated that the bombing which killed at least 16 and was accompanied by a 10 minute fusillade of automatic weapon fire, "bears all the hallmarks of an Al Qaeda attack."

The resilience of al-Qaeda can also be seen in the case of Said Ali al-Shihri, a former GITMO detainee, released in 2007 to Saudi Arabia where, despite having been "rehabilitated," nonetheless fled upon release to rejoin his fellow jihadis - in a leadership role in Yemen.

Though the various al-Qaeda factions in this country operate under nominally separate allegiances, recently, as reported by Bill Rogio in the Long War Journal, al-Qaeda in Yemen has linked up with al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, creating a more potent threat.

"Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has opened a new training camp in the South. The new camp highlights Yemen's value to al Qaeda in waging its global terror campaign...The camp was established with the approval of the central government, according to a report in Saru Hamyir, an Arabic-language Yemeni news website. The existence of the camp was confirmed by US military and intelligence officials familiar with the region...'Yemen is Pakistan in the heart of the Arab world," one official said. "You have military and government collusion with al Qaeda, peace agreements, budding terror camps, and the export of jihad to neighboring countries.'" [source, Long War Journal, Al-Qaeda opens new training camp in Yemen, http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/11/al_qaeda_opens_new_t.php]

Al-Qaeda's activities in Saudi Arabia are becoming more brazen with the group having come very close to assassinating the Saudi Interior Minister and anti-terror chief Mohammed bin Nayef in August of this year.

Yemen has come to greater public awareness most recently due to the Ft. Hood terrorist attack carried out by Major Hasan. Numerous news sources have pointed to incriminating statements as well as a series of email communications between him and radical, American born Anwar al-Awlaki, formerly the imam at the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, VA.

Awlaki's ties to radical Islam are extensive. In addition to having had contact with some of the 9/11 conspirators and his Virginia mosque serving as the place of worship for Major Hasan, he has been cited in numerous terror cases [including the Ft. Dix plot] as an important inspiration for Islamic terror, not just domestically but on a global basis.

"In nearly a dozen recent terrorism cases in the United States, Britain and Canada, investigators discovered the suspects had something in common: a devotion to the message of Anwar al-Awlaki an eloquent Muslim cleric who has turned the Web into a tool for extremist indoctrination" [source, New York Times, Born in U.S., A Radical Cleric Inspires Terror, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/us/19awlaki.html?_r=1]


There is an additional and intriguing angle involving Yemen, creating a confluence between, that country, Ft. Hood and the Obama administration, in that U.S. AG Holder's former law firm, Covington & Burling, represented a number of Yemeni detainees who are/were being held in GITMO.

It was meddling by committed lefty attorneys which made military prosecution of the GITMO detainees so difficult. Relentless pressure applied by these advocates is what ultimately led to the Hamden decision [Hamden vs. Rumsfeld, 548 U.S. 557, 2006] in which the military tribunal system established by the Bush administration - relying upon long historical precedent - was overturned on a 5-3 Supreme Court decision, which for the first time in American history applied principles codified in the Geneva Accords to terrorists to which Geneva was long understood not to apply.

As we noted in a February piece [Former Partner Of Eric Holder's Law Firm Represents Cole Bomber And 14 Other GITMO Detainees, http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=holder1id=2.9.09%2Ehtm] the involvement in this process by Holder's old law firm was substantial.

"On Thursday Army Col. James L. Pohl the military judge presiding over the trial of Abd al Rahim al Nashiri [suspected of masterminding the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in the port city of Aden, Yemen as well as being heavily implicated in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya - Mohammad Ali al-Makki a cousin of al Nashiri's was a suicide bomber in that attack] refused to go along with the Obama administration's request to postpone the prosecution for 120 days, saying that such a move would not serve justice and was as a result, "not reasonable."

Al Nashiri [born in Saudi Arabia] is part of a group of 15 Yemeni GITMO detainees who are represented by David Remes a member - until he was either booted or saw the handwriting on the wall and "resigned" on July 18, 2008 - of Attorney General Eric Holder's law firm, Covington & Burling,

"Remes, who represents 15 Yemeni detainees, announced his resignation on July 18, saying that he plans to devote himself exclusively to human rights litigation...My departure is the inevitable outcome of my human rights work at the firm in the past four years, which became a consuming passion," Remes said in a statement." [source, http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/07/16/to-protest-gitmo-punishment-covington-parnter-drops-trou-in-yemen/]

The status of many of the GITMO Yemenis is unknown at this point, despite continued demands by Congressman Frank Wolf and others for the administration to state who among them might have been released, whether there has been a threat assessment made regarding them, and if they have been released, where, when and under what conditions.

"In a letter today to the president, [Congressman Frank] Wolf implored the administration not to send any more detainees back to Yemen, or any other unstable country...If the public had this information, they would never tolerate the release of these men back to unstable countries with a sizeable al Qaeda presence...If the administration does not halt these pending releases immediately, it could be responsible for creating a new revolving door of terrorism that will cost American lives..." [source, http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=wolf11.12.09%2Ehtm]

Heightening concern, an article appearing in al-Jazeera on November 22, 2009 with the source reporting that as many as 90 of these un-reconstituted possible terrorists might be released - to, of all countries - Yemen.

"Yemen is struggling with the possible release of the largest group of detainees at the US detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The release of more than 90 Yemenis still being held at the facility may be delayed due to US fears that Yemen does not have the capacity to ensure the men will not rejoin al-Qaeda." [source, al-Jazeera, Yemen Weights Rehabilitation issue, http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/11/200911226329834508.html]

There are a multiplicity of conflicts of interest that might be in play here.

First, there is the matter of the Justice Department apparently missing the significance of the Hasan/Yemen connection completely or dismissing it as being of no consequence

Second, the fact that a member of AG Holder's former law firm represented some of the GITMO Yemenis presents ethical questions as to his ability to act impartially in this matter.

Third, we view with suspicion, the stonewalling by DOJ of Congressional efforts to be made aware of what is happening with the nearly 100 Yemenis - potential terrorists - who might be soon released back to the Middle East's burgeoning al-Qaeda stronghold.

We believe that these questions raise grave concerns regarding the desire of the Obama administration to adequately protect American national security. It's no wonder then that this administration is rapidly proving that its incompetence in foreign policy and national security matters is seemingly without bounds and that it apparently has little will to remedy the situation before there are irreparable consequences.

attribution


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 25, 2009 2:18 pmre: re: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Ron Sam
A video of Senator Lindsey Graham cutting Eric Holder, AG to shreds ..


"... You're criminalizing the War ..."



Lindsey Graham Destroys Eric Holder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG7lm8Sfbo4


Private Reply to Ron Sam

Nov 25, 2009 6:34 pmCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
Holder is just another worthless piece of human excrement in the toilet bowl of progressives that BHO has dumped in his dysfunctional cabinet. We used to call it the Whitehouse. . . it should be called the OUTHOUSE until we flush this place out.

M.


Private Reply to Mike Fesler

Dec 05, 2009 2:39 amre: Call this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Christina Daly
With that attitude, Mike, I thought you were going to call it "Uncle Tom's Cabin."

Chris Daly


Private Reply to Christina Daly

Dec 05, 2009 3:10 amCall this horror by its name...Jihadist Terrorism#

Mike Fesler
The color of skin is not, has not, or ever will be a factor for successful leadership.
The internal workings and or contents within are the determining factor.
You either have it or you surround yourself with it.

Sadly in the present situation. . . the lack of leadership and the obvious lack of underpinnings to support has become evident with every tick of the clock. And with every discovery of a new scandal that the lamestream media is incapable to report.

Much like a termite riddled framing system the time and weight and exposure to the elements will eventually produce a failure or collapse. Then we will see a change that you wont believe in.


And yes to respond to your baiting statement more directly.
30 + years of developing relationships world wide.
Many of my closest friends and associates are of color, and ethnicity. I work in over 200 countries and have associates in over 50 countries.

M.




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