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| | Post New Topic | | Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | Views: 218 | | Oct 23, 2008 2:55 am | | Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # | 
Ron Sam | | Ex-muslim Waleed Shoebat tells us the truth about
Barack Hussein Obama:
Obama is the Anti-Christ. This is the evidence:
1.- He will come as a man of Peace (Obama promises peace in Iraq, defeat for the US)
2.- He will come mounted on a white Female horse(Obama mother is white who had 6 African husbands)
3.- He will come to deceive( Obama says he's a Christian but in fact he was born a Muslim, practices the Islamic religion, prays Fridays facing Mecca)
4.- He will make himself the most powerful man on earth, if elected
5.- He will try to destroy the Jewish People and Israel( Obama has said he loves the Arabs specially the Palestinians, hates Israel and Jews. Admires Hitler, Osama etc)
6.- He will present himself as good and righteous but in fact he's Satan himself. Violence is in his heart
7.- Obama will help Al Qaida in its evil projects.
8.- Barack Hussein Obama is the King of the South predicted in the Bible.(Daniel .11, Kenya is south of Jerusalem)
9.- Obama comes to implant muslim Sharia Law upon America.
Obama is the Anti-Christ, beware of him.
Watch him and don't let you be deceived by Him.
Supporters of Obama: 1.5 billion Muslims, Oprah, Louis Farrakanh, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all American Muslims.
Very important -- even if you don't believe it all,
you will learn a lot.
YouTube: ex- Palestinian terrorist Walid Shoebat tells
"the truth about Barack Hussein Obama":
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWH9P57qg3k
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJsJPjHbin8
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbXbwh4nXEQ
Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEAcsEvFGOw
" Walid Shoebat was training to be a terrorist; he became
a Christian, and has on-line a DVD that is entitled :
'What the West Needs To Know'. This guy is a must see! "
Link is here:
http://www.ryze.com/posttopic.php?topicid=995890&confid=2158
Private Reply to Ron Sam | | Oct 24, 2008 2:26 pm | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Ron Sam | | Question: How does a Muslim Palestinian go from being a near-suicide bomber to becoming an outspoken Zionist (and in San Francisco, of all places)?
Answer: By converting to Christianity. The Jewish Bulletin of Northern California carries a revealing news item about Walid Shoebat (Arabic spelling: Shu`aybat), showing how this son of a Palestinian Muslim father and an American Christian mother transited from his father's to his mother's religion:
The transition began after Shoebat married a Christian woman, and in trying to prove to her that Islam was the true path, he began reading the Bible to prove to her how wrong she was. "In 1993 I started looking into my enemy's book, the Tanach and I came to the conclusion that the Jewish people are the most peaceful people on earth."
Now he is a Christian, whose love for Israel and the Jewish people is genuine. "I come to you out of love for your people and your Bible, to say my people are wrong. The Arabs and Muslims are wrong. I started looking into my enemy's book, the Tanach, and I came to the conclusion that the Jewish people are the most peaceful people on earth." (June 5, 2003)
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/06/walid-shoebat-palestinian-turns-from-radical.html
Private Reply to Ron Sam | | Oct 24, 2008 6:23 pm | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # | 
William J | | I agree with you on 3 through 5 but there are flaws in your logic. The antichrist is supposed to come out of the revived Roman empire.
Revelation 17:12-13 it says "12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast." Now going further
Revelation 6:2 it says "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer
How is Obama going to be conquering other nations when he has such a weak stance on the war on terror. Ibama is Anti Military so that rule out of him being a conquerer. We can see the beginning developments of a military in the European Union. Now get this.... the German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer has proposed the most radical ideas. He says the EU must in the end become a single federation, with its political leader chosen by direct elections among all of Europe's citizens."
As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them; he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings. He shall speak words against the Most High and shall wear out the saints of the Most High. According to Johns vision in Revelation. The antichrist will wage war firstly against Israel and when thwarted by God's miraculous deliverance will turn against the Saints (Revelation 13:7) Obama doesn't have the spine to start a war with Israel, Let alone be a strong leader. Look how quickly he folds when you question his past associations. Well this should scare the bats out of you. Barroso and Sarkozy are calling for a President of the European Union.
http://euobserver.com/18/26954
Look how many called Ronald Reagan the antichrist and turned out they were wrong. Look how many Bill Clinton the antichrist and turned out they were wrong. Look how many referred Bush as the antichrist and they ended up being wrong.
William
Private Reply to William J | | Oct 25, 2008 8:59 am | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # | 
Peter Boaz Jones | | I have to commend Walid Shoebat’s acknowledgement that Jews are a most peaceful race, and his stance against anti-Semitism as well as his support for Israel, and his attack on extremists Muslims. Even, Tony Blair in his crusade for alleviating hunger in Africa in the Jewish Chronicle last week praised Jewish efforts and requested that two Jews be allowed to be on each team of the outreach programme.
Nevertheless, as Wikipedia noted:
“Shoebat has been criticized for alleged falsehoods and inconsistencies in his self-representation.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat
I am with William over the credulous suggestion that Obama is the Anti-Christ, or even anti-Christ, and have answered the numbers of so-called evidence, and left out any that I agree with or are too ridiculous, as they appear to be jokes:
1. The war in Iraq is albeit over and it is now just a case of monitoring the Iraqi police and troops with their success in quelling widespread attacks.
3. What religion one is born into does not override any other religion that one may choose later. Walid Shoebat, should know that as he was a Muslim.
5. Reverend Jesse Jackson also mentioned in the Jewish Chronicle last Week that Obama would be anti-Zionist in his approach, and was backing him. Nonetheless, he has never spoken with him, and is not on his Campaign Team, as the paper acknowledged. Congress would never allow the sentiment as expressed in the professed evidence of number 5.
6, 7, and 9. Once again Congress would never tolerate an evil President, any help for terrorist’s aggression, or a change to an unfairer legal system.
8. The King of South’s armies as pictured in Daniel come from the South, not from the West and the USA.
What if McCain’s Campaign Team had picked Walid Shoebat for their campaign against Obama?;-)
Of course the symbolism as mentioned by William, could be stretched further in warning that the Roman Empire’s legal system as copied by the USA in having Senators is also fulfilled in that sense, and that the USA is predominantly populated by citizens who came for Europe.
I didn’t comment on bizarre comical allegory in point 2 above on the white horse. Yet as it’s mentioned again, we have to understand that Revelation is full imagery. It pictures a two-edged sword coming out of Christ’s mouth, with Him ruling with a rod of iron, and having seven stars in His right-hand. Certainly these all mean literal things, but are metaphors for them, and warnings. Clearly, Christ is not coming with an actual physical bow and arrows.
Also to change the rotating Presidency in Europe, there would have to be complete legal agreement within twenty-five countries, to have just one. Besides, the seven Political Leaders in Revelation are depicted as subsequent Dictators.
Surely, Obama is not the Big Beast;-)
Interesting to note Daniel and the great resplendent image of the world’s four major successive empires, and its concluding one, which dovetails with Revelation, too:
“Whereas you (King Nebuchadnezzar) saw the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, because you saw the iron mixed with miry clay. As the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. Whereas you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of humanity; but they shall not cling to one another, even as iron does not mingle with clay. In the days of those kings shall the God of Heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty of it be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever” (Daniel 2:41-44).
“Passive indifference is as bad as active malice." ~ Barak Obama
Pete :-) Moderator of: Exploring Belief Systems, God, & Spirituality
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones | | Oct 29, 2008 3:06 am | | re: re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
William J | | When one mentions the Kings of the south. They should know of the following countries might come into the end game when all this erupts into all out war.
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, And Sudan. Also their is Libya, Chad, Somalia. And Saudi Arabia is known to fund terrorist operations.
Take a look at the Percentange of Muslims in these countries
Top 50 Muslim Countries
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/places/top_50.htm
The ones I mentiones are south of Israel. Map of the Middle East http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm
I must say its kind of alarming. I remember the first Gulf War. Many were calling Saddam the anti-christ and it turned out they were wrong.
William
Private Reply to William J | | Oct 29, 2008 12:43 pm | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Peter Boaz Jones | | Interesting points William.
Though talking about the king of the south, the only place where the phrase “the king of the south” is mentioned is in Daniel 11, and it is the king of the north who succeeds against the king of the south.
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Chad, and Somalia, are all countries that dissimilar to when Iraq posed a threat to Israel and the West, if left alone they would have continued with their quest to develop weapons of mass destruction. These countries are posing no threat that Israel could not handle. Only recently Israel was said to have taken out Syria’s nuclear programme, and it is Iran that needs to be watched.
Mentioning the antichrist, actually nowhere in Scripture does the Bible in the original Greek refer to THE antichrist. Although some English translations do place a “the” in front of antichrist. The term “antichrist” is found in only four Scriptures, all written by the John: I John 2:18, 22, 4:3 and II John 7. Originally written in Greek, it means “an opponent of the Messiah” - in other words, “against Christ”. John warned Christians, “Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there MANY ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time” (I John 2:18).
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Private Reply to Peter Boaz Jones | | Oct 31, 2008 4:39 am | | re: re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Ron Sam | | TIME Magazine story
An Antichrist Obama in McCain Ad?
see: http://tiny.cc/DezGW
excerpt:
The speculation reached a fever pitch after Obama's European trip and the Berlin speech in which he called for global unity. Conservative Christian author Hal Lindsey declared in an essay on WorldNetDaily, "Obama is correct in saying that the world is ready for someone like him — a messiah-like figure, charismatic and glib ... The Bible calls that leader the Antichrist. And it seems apparent that the world is now ready to make his acquaintance." The conservative website RedState.com now sells mugs and T shirts that sport a large "O" with horns and the words "The Anti-Christ" underneath.
Private Reply to Ron Sam | | Oct 31, 2008 6:57 am | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # | 
Venkatesan Iyengar | |
Why do people think that Antichrist has to be a ‘person’ – a human being? Revelation is full of symbols that are not to be taken literally.
To me, antichrist is any evil or unholy thought that ‘rules’ you.
If Christ is Love, then Antichrist is Hatred.
Private Reply to Venkatesan Iyengar | | Oct 31, 2008 7:21 am | | re: re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Venkatesan Iyengar | |
Why should we think that Antichrist has to be a ‘person’ – a human being?
The Book of Revelation is full of symbols that are not to be taken literally.
To me, antichrist is any evil or unholy thought that 'rules' you.
If Christ is Love, then antichrist is hatred.
Private Reply to Venkatesan Iyengar | | Oct 31, 2008 2:21 pm | | re: re: re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # | 
Shawn Gibson | |
The references in the Bible to "Antichrist" appear in only four places and all were written by John.
I John 2:18 and 2:22
I John 4:3
II John 1:7
According to John the antichrist is anyone who would deny Jesus as the son of God.
Nowhere does John attribute the antichrist to a single individual but says there are many.
All Respect
Owl
Private Reply to Shawn Gibson | | Nov 01, 2008 12:56 am | | re: re: re: re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Ron Sam | |
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Antichrist or anti-Christ means a person, office, or group recognized as fulfilling the Biblical prophecies about one who will oppose Christ and substitute himself in Christ's place.
Private Reply to Ron Sam | | Nov 01, 2008 10:02 am | | re: Walid Shoebat: Truth of Barrack Hussein Obama | # |
Peter Boaz Jones | | Shawn
That’s exactly what I said three posts up from yours. Ron is also right that the anti-Christ is also pictured as the Beast a political leader, and the False Prophet a religious leader in Revelation.
John who had the book of Revelation revealed to him, also said in the Scripture I and Shawn mentioned, “And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: AND THIS IS THAT SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof you have heard it should come; and even now already is it in the world” (1 John 4:3).
It says “IT”—not “he”—“should come,” and that “IT”—not he—“is already in the world”, which was written in AD90. So an antichrist is more than just a person or group of people, as well as an attitude, an idea, or a teaching. Thus he spirit of antichrist, as Ron posted, can be applied to people, authorities, attitudes and actions. It could also permeate all cultures, subcultures and societies of the world.
Of course as Venkatesan alluded that though the book of Revelation is full of metaphorical symbols they are actually meant to refer to things that were literal, and as a warning to the church and humankind. As with the warnings given to the seven churches they were mentioned so that the predictions would not happen.
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