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Economic Depression 2009?Views: 163
Mar 24, 2009 4:48 am re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Economic Depression 2009?

John Stephen Veitch
Hello Lamar

I think you've come to a good place in your thinking. A crossroad. I hope you have already read the story about Waldo Salt, that led him to write in his journal: "To search for truth you must first have lost it."

The real point is that when we "know" we can't be advised, told or taught anything different because the status if "I know" precludes learning or even understanding any contrary information that is being presented.

Only when the seed of doubt exists are you capable of re-examining anything you might "know".

Lloyd Geering says that the essential root of faith is that because you are uncertain, that there is a seed of doubt, faith is a necessary part of Christian belief.

Geering's complaint against New Life religious groups is that they try to abolish doubt. According to Geering; "Your doubt is the growing edge of your faith."

I was very easy to educate as a young man. I believed what I was told by my teachers and parents and I wasn't rebellious as a teenager, as many of my mates were. But in my early 30's I began to realise that lots of the stuff I'd been fed and so willingly accepted was clearly wrong.

That realisation had professional, political and religious roots. I can't be sure where it started. I do know that I felt a strong need to document what I was learning, to observe and record what was going on around me. I was 34 when I started to write my journal.

For many years all the stuff I was collecting didn't make any sense, it was just a collection of miscellaneous "stuff" that interested me at the time. It's only after 20 or more years that I can see a process of searching going on. Slowly developing a new point of view that was mine, and not the one that my parents gave me. It's taken a long time to become comfortable with my new position on lots of different issues. It surprises me sometimes, but I learning to trust my instincts on new issues more and more.

I'm interested in this paragraph:
"I worked for Bear Stearns myself for nearly 16 years. ... Do you think I thought Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were providing me with fraudulent information? Of course not. But, at some point both organizations were passing along inaccurate information. And, certain people high up knew it was inaccurate and did not care."

I think even then the guys at the top didn't know. You were in the best position to know. Valuers, real estate agents, lawyers, banks all had staff who KNEW that values were being falsified, or that client qualifications for loans were being massaged so that loans would be approved. The trouble is that when something becomes "normal practise" it become impossible to "see it".


John Stephen Veitch
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