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Oct 15, 2003 4:29 pm		re: re: Read the Amazon comments <g> (was re: Book addition)
Stephan H. Wissel		Hi Rebecca, > Rebecca St. Martin wrote: > I think programmers are misunderstood a lot of times. Yup agree. The issue has quite a number of dimensions: a) lack of communication (the project managers responisbility!!!!) b) lack of involvement in the design (the project manager/owners reponsibility!!!) c) doomed procedures (written specs are either too blur or too bulky (Methodology to blame) d) Diverging focus of interest (as you explained. ... >I read through some of the comments of the recommended text (haven't read the book though) and see that several readers felt there was a negative tone. I would agree with the idea that "only the beaten dog barks." Soul searching can be a difficult process when a person is put in a defensive position. Sure. I think if the book would have been about how to manage the processes to avoid the critizised results, then the project managers would "bark" > >Franz Kafka was a fiction writer. He wrote stories that included themes of abandonment, alienation and panic. Most of his stories have unhappy endings. I know, it was more a rethoric question. I think that the literature of an other continent might not be commonly known in technical education. When we had to work on Kafka in College our teacher did a mental health check before he assigned work about him. The most kafaesque about Kafka: he obviously knew about the potential destructive power of his work and ordered in his last will its destruction. However his sister decided to publish it (the reason I forgot), laying the foundation for endless hours of "College-tourture" for us (trying to make sense of him) :-) > >P.S. Just a note about me: you'll usually find me standing up for the underdog, whomever it may be. (I'm not a programmer -- just an onlooker and a habitual empathizer.) This earns you my respect! > > >> Stephan H. Wissel wrote: >> >> >>> Chris Nagele wrote: >>> You may want to add this book also. It is by Alan Cooper. Definitely the best interaction design methods I have ever seen. >> >> >> >>This is version 2.0 of the book. It is fun to compare the two editions which are 8 years appart. Many things are still valid. >> >>I was browsing through the comments on Amazon. Cooper has infuriated a wide audience. I would say "Only the beaten dog barks". His language is quite upmarket, so the straight-forward engineering mind might encounter language challenges (who the hell is Kafka? ). >> >>The tone of the critique leads to my conclusion: Bullseye. Eventually the software developers who obviously felt offended need some soul-searching... >> >>What is your experience with our engineering colleagues? >>:-) stw Private Reply to Stephan H. Wissel (new win)

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