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| Nov 19, 2009 10:00 am |
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re: re: 35 Inconvenient Truths |
John Stephen Veitch
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Here is an Australian professional geologist with a view on climate change you might enjoy.
Bob Carter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgaeyMa3jyU
Here are some of the comments on his talk. I deleted just two that thought he was brilliant.
Marineninga (1 week ago)
Australia has its different views on climate change, on one side the nationalists and a bit of the liberals don’t believe in climate change, and on the labor as well as most city folk will believe in climate change. IMO ETS bill shouldn’t affect the agricultural industry permanently nor should it surge house hold electricity bills
ReduceGHGs (2 weeks ago)
Sorry, but bulk of the science behind the anthropogenic global warming conclusions are NOT models. The models are in fact useful tools in determining what the future may hold with the application of different variables.
Try reading a book or two about how humans affect the biosphere. Ocean acidification and its consequences, the carbon cycle, and positive reinforcing mechanisms of climate change are all important to learn about.
“Just say NO” is an irrational naysayer approach.
VeryEvilPettingZoo (2 weeks ago)
You want a rebuttal of Carter in this video?
1) ”I occupy the balanced middle of this debate.” Lie. He’s standard deviations away from the norm of the view of climate-related scientists.
2) He says how he’s informing the public of “the real facts, the balanced facts” - and then proceeds to lie and deceive.
VeryEvilPettingZoo (2 weeks ago)
3) He called carbon dioxide “a minor” greenhouse gas that causes “a small” amount of warming. Balanced? Hmmm... He compared it to water vapor, conveniently leaving out that the water cycle is so quick/responsive to temps that it’s considered a feedback mechanism, not a forcing agent. He also ignored how dry the upper atmosphere is. The upper atmosphere is where greenhouse gases have their major impact on the Earth’s energy budget. CO2 is fairly evenly mixed in the atmosphere; H2O is not.
VeryEvilPettingZoo (2 weeks ago)
4) He said “if you calculate – and this is not a disputed figure – both the [IPCC] and independent analysts agree – that if you double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere from pre-Industrial times, then the amount of warming will be about a degree.”
That’s a bold faced lie. See the IPCC FAR, Summary for Policy Makers, page 12:
“The equilibrium climate sensitivity is a measure of the climate system response to sustained radiative forcing. It is not a projection but is defined as the global average surface warming following a doubling of carbon dioxide concentrations. It is likely to be in the range 2 C to 4.5 C with a best estimate of about 3 C, and is very unlikely to be less than 1.5 C.”
(The report explicitly defines “likely” as at least 66% chance, and “very unlikely” as less than 10% chance.)
ReduceGHGs (3 weeks ago)
Bob Carter is corporate sponsored. His background is geology and NOT climatology. In addition, he has no study to back up his claims. Weigh the word of individuals like this against what all of our historically reliable institutions have been saying. There’s no comparison and there’s no credible doubt no matter how much the vested interests want the people to believe that ther is.
goog2k (3 weeks ago)
ScienceNews
“These same methane clathrates are present today in the Arctic permafrost as well as below sea level, and remain dormant until triggered by warming.
“This is a major concern because it’s possible that only a little warming can unleash this trapped methane. Unzippering the methane reservoir could warm the Earth TENS OF DEGREES, and the mechanism could be geologically very rapid.”
Search : Large Methane Release Could Cause Abrupt Climate Change
ReduceGHGs (3 weeks ago)
Bob Carter deserves respect? Hardly.
His profession is in geology, and he is paid by corporate interests.
To refute his claims that climate forecasts are all up in the air, I recommend also reading what our reliable scientific institutions have been saying.
Google: Scientific Opinion on Climate Change Wiki
For more information try UCSUSA(dot)org
ReduceGHGs (4 weeks ago)
Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change
“It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. The challenge, rather, appears to be how to effectively communicate this fact to policy makers and to a public that continues to mistakenly perceive debate among scientists.”
P.S. Carter is a corporate hack.
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