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Oct 09, 2010 2:54 pmHow the ipad is transforming web design.#

Eileen Brown
Mashable article:
How the ipad is transforming web design.

http://mashable.com/2010/09/30/ipad-web-design/

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Any thoughts on this?

Eileen :D

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Oct 11, 2010 7:01 pmre: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Bobbi Jo Woods
Seems like a lot of pages might be trying to switch up their layouts to be able to be used in iPad browsers--which is still Safari (the bane of the PC-using designers existence). But more than 90% of small business & corporate environments still have IE and Microsoft for their network setups. So I will continue to design for that environment (with Firefox/Chrome tweaks).

Out of the thousands of people whom I know personally in business, only one actually owns an iPad.

So until a large chunk of businesses are using iPads, I won't be switching around any of my client's designs (or unless they say so).

-Bobbi Jo

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Oct 16, 2010 1:16 pmre: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Eileen Brown
Same here BJ.

However, I have been reading all information possible to
keep up with trends on technology.

Maybe I will have a 'clue' when the time comes though!

Eileen :D

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Oct 16, 2010 1:56 pmre: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Bobbi Jo Woods
Hiya EB

I know you keep up w/tech stuff... I wasn't trying to insult your role in bringing us the latest.

Just giving my two cents on why I won't be designing for iPad users any time soon :)

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Oct 16, 2010 3:31 pmre: re: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Scott Wolpow
What has a much greater impact is building sites that work with Mobile devices, which include IPhone, IPad, Blackberry and Android platforms.
There are two means to this end.
The first is to use a differant template for these devices. If you build sites using a MVC architecture [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93View%E2%80%93Controller] you can easily accomplish this. It just is time consunimg. By using CSS each platform and or browser can have its own version. Makes it tough to have an universal look.

The second method is to create applications for each. That is a much higher cost, but gives you total control and you can create what you need for each device.

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Oct 16, 2010 3:42 pmre: re: re: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Bobbi Jo Woods
Doing separate CSS files for different reasons or different media (screen vs. print, mobile vs. computer browser, etc.) is very simple to do and I've been doing it for years.

I also have used some hidden scripts on web sites which allow for mobile users to "skip to content" or "return to top" (nothing new about that).

Being a mobile web user myself, it shows you how well a page is designed. If there are nav menus which are made using images it's not very helpful UNLESS you design the page so that the nav images have "ALT" text - in which case for mobile web browsers that do not show images or have a hard time loading them--the user can still read the menu and navigate the site.

-Bobbi Jo

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Oct 16, 2010 4:24 pmHow the ipad is transforming web design.#

Scott Wolpow
In more complex sites that can be tricky. If the menu items come from a DB and are not hard coded, you have more flexability.
Using iamges for navs is always a bad idea, though clienst love it.

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Oct 16, 2010 9:47 pmre: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Heidi Caswell
If a website's clients, visitors use iphone, ipad etc. then a company would have an advantage making their site more mobile compatible.

Wordpress has a plugin for themes to add a mobile device friendlier theme. Since I only use my cell for calls, I'll have to check it out next time my son is visiting, he has multiple devices to check it out on, my 4 year old grandson loves their ipad..

I do know that some companies make free or premium aps for their fans, makes their brand stickier, add a coolness factor. Apps for droid and/or apple's devices, etc.

SendOutCards has free app out (beta) for iphone, ipad, your iphone contacts and SOC contacts can merge together. Helpful.

This same son is one of the core developers for node.js which works quite well developing hand held device apps in real time. Within the next year we can expect to see more hand held ipad like devices developed.

I think it will continue to be more important all the time to program for this growing trend. (Unless your target market is like me and doesn't use any of those devices, not till I have a need for such yet)

Heidi Caswell
http://connectsimply.com

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Oct 16, 2010 10:07 pmre: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Scott Wolpow
The word press template is an example of why using MVC is the best practice to develop new sites.

An app is only worth it, if it generates a return.

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Oct 17, 2010 12:31 amre: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Bobbi Jo Woods
Heidi & Scott

Sometimes WordPress themes just have the built-in navigation template codes to allow for better mobile browsing. Not all of them do though, so your mileage may vary.

Scott - what is MVC?

-Bobbi Jo

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Oct 17, 2010 1:46 amre: re: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Scott Wolpow
MVC stands for Model–View–Controller.

Model is the logic part of the code. It is what processes searches or what content displayed.

The Controller is the user interface and contains CSS and HTML tags. It controls how the content is displayed.


The View is the content [except when they walk off the set lol]. It is stored in the database. May argue that it should not have any html tags, but that makes for much harder authoring articles.

The
Essentially you are separating the look of a site, the content and the code that runs the site.

In Wordpress, Joomla, Magento, Drupal, Ruby and many others the look and feel are from a template. You can change templates like a skin.

The content is from a database.
The code tells controls manipulation of the data.

Here is a detailed description.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93View%E2%80%93Controller
If you want to work on the next generation of websites, then it is time to say good bye to that old style of storing data. Yes it is time to go to NOSQL.

And for the front end try Lithium [not the drug/element]
http://rad-dev.org/lithium/wiki/about
and MongoDB http://www.mongodb.org/

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Oct 17, 2010 3:28 amre: re: re: re: re: How the ipad is transforming web design.#

Bobbi Jo Woods
Scott

OK - I had heard of this but didn't know the term. I've already seen some of these types of things in action, one client had a WordPress set up using something this way but I was unfamiliar.

I'll check it out. Thanks!

-Bobbi Jo

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Oct 17, 2010 1:29 pmHow the ipad is transforming web design.#

Scott Wolpow
jetsetter.com is built using MongoDB and a few other things. It can handle 10K transactions at the same time using only a coiuple of servers.

This type of DB is called memmapped. It is how Facebook, Google, Twitter operate.

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