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Sep 26, 2012 4:54 pmRyze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Scott Allen
Good to see so many familiar faces, and a few new ones!

You know, a few years ago, when Facebook and LinkedIn started getting really big, and Ryze wasn't doing much to update their site, it started feeling kind of "clunky" and not up with the times.

But now, with Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc., all trying to do stuff in real-time -- constantly polling the server for new messages -- plus all the advertising, plus all the many "shiny objects" that are constantly vying for your attention... well, now, I think Ryze looks refreshingly simple and fast by comparison.

I know there are hundreds of millions of people on Facebook and LinkedIn, but if you're really going for NETWORKING -- true relationship-building and referrals -- not just exposure, do you really need all that? Does it even serve you well? Versus, say, 100-200 people that are really committed to serving and supporting each other and a simple, clean tool to enable communication?

I really appreciate Paul's initiative, and while I'm not giving up on LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter any time soon, I'm definitely thinking it may be time to rethink Ryze and make it an essential tool in my toolkit again. It certainly was at one time -- I've generated tens of thousands of dollars via Ryze connections, and count many people I met here as friends, going on 10 years later.

Looking forward to networking with you all.

- Scott -


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Sep 27, 2012 7:39 amre: re: Good points from Scott/Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Gery DiMarco
Oddly the very thing, in my opinion, that forced Ryze into the changes that throttled it are the very things that run rampant as FB and Twitter thrive... people blanketing others with requests to connect only to pitch them with ads after their acceptance.

Networking and masterminding are not supposed to be synonymous with advertising and marketing but tools to enhance one's capabilities in those fields.

So as I once wrote in The Four Ships... Begin by forming a relationship. If you have mutual likes you will form a friendship that may evolve into a partnership. From the partnerships you will find those capable of leadership and those two things will carry you to greatness in whatever your profession might be.


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Sep 28, 2012 3:28 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Jeff Beeman
Wow. Just looked back at my start date with Ryze. It's been 8 years! I don't even remember who invited me (Possibly Micheal Lemm?) but how so much has changed in that amount of time.

I see a lot of "I'm Back Posts" and that's great! Glad to see you again! For myself I have continued to use RYZE off and on over those years in various stages of my online evolution knowing that the more data out there the easier I may be to find.

As far as RYZE Vs FB and other online tools? RYZE will be as effective as you want it to be if you have it involved in your over all P.O.A.(Plan of Action). I've used RYZE ineffectively on several occasions trying to carry on business banter back and forth or just posting direct advertising. I have learned over the years to use it more like a Blog piece adding helpful material to the various networks.

Great place to build relationships? Sure! Maybe not as direct as the "real time" sites but more like a "slow cooker" giving you time to see all the ingredients being added by all these great folks.

Live Large!
Jeff Beeman

Find me on that other site... ;o)
http://facebook.com/jbnet


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Sep 28, 2012 3:37 pmre: re: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Deborah DeGrande
I agree 100% with Scott here when he says:

I know there are hundreds of millions of people on Facebook and LinkedIn, but if you're really going for NETWORKING -- true relationship-building and referrals -- not just exposure, do you really need all that? Does it even serve you well? Versus, say, 100-200 people that are really committed to serving and supporting each other and a simple, clean tool to enable communication?

...........................................................

I too do not care how many millions of members are on FB or how much they have "thrived" as my good friend Gery put it.

I am not looking to connect with "millions" of people and I could never do that in a lifetime anyway. :) lol

Happy Friday everyone! It's nice to see former members/friends coming together here again!!

:)


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Sep 28, 2012 3:55 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Thomas Conduff
Thank you for your post. I agree, a small group of friends working together creats a stronger bond and with the simple way we can use our Ryze Message Board Post to share our personal feelings, interest and our business interest.
I look forward to a wonderful beginning, Thomas


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Sep 28, 2012 9:45 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Marilyn Jenett


Wow, Paul, this is really serious :)

Ryze rises from the ashes like the Phoenix!!

All kidding aside...

Who says you can't go back? This month, we decided to have another high school reunion and it's been wonderful reconnecting in the planning with classmates from long ago.

And now this.

To this day, I feel that Ryze was unlike any other social networking site then or now. Ryze gave us the ability to have real conversations - conversations of substance - and the opportunity to connect with others in a special way. No wonder many of us made lasting friendships here.

I've missed the camaraderie and tried to understand why Adrian dropped the ball. I guess it was too big of a task to compete with the 500-pound gorilla (Facebook).

But on top of all of that, Ryze changed my life dramatically and permanently (as some of you know). I will always be grateful to Adrian Scott and the Ryze community for providing the platform for me to create and fulfill my life's purpose. I reinvented myself right here on Ryze. I grew Feel Free to Prosper and attracted thousands of students, I wrote my entrepreneurial memoir here - and I just looked - the memoir (still free to read) has had 38,649 views even though my network has been inactive for several years (not to mention the publishing offers).

Like it was for you, Scott, Ryze was extremely profitable for me and set a great foundation for future rewards.

Although I'm active on Facebook (and my posts automatically go to Twitter) I think of FB and Twitter as huge cocktail parties where everyone is talking at the same time. :)
I really only use them as a platform to share my knowledge, but I'm not inspired by the majority of superficial chit chat.

It's nice to be here, Paul, if you can keep this going.

Question: I thought that Ryze isn't accepting any new members, so is this only open to those of us who never unjoined? I think someone posted on your FB wall that when she tried to rejoin, there was no response.

Marilyn


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Sep 29, 2012 8:03 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Ilka Flood
You know Scott, you may be on to something.

Thanks for the invite, Paul! I haven't been here on Ryze since 2010, but it may be time to rethink Ryze and give it a try again. Just as a side note...it was Ryze where I connected with some great networkers and got my previous business off to a great start 8 years ago.

~Ilka


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Sep 29, 2012 9:33 pmre: re: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Deborah DeGrande
Hi Ilka!!

Nice to see you again. Been a long time!

:)


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Sep 30, 2012 12:56 amre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Thomas Conduff
I agree with Scot and will help to build this business network. I believe it will be better that working with local chamber.Thomas


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Oct 07, 2012 12:06 pmre: re: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

C.S.Chandrasekkar (c.s.chandrasekkar@gmail.com)
I believe just a few changes here and there, Ryze could be Rocking!

Most changes in terms of useability and interface and allowing more flexibility. Flexible in interfacing with third party developed apps could be a big plus.

Would love to contribute what I could to see Ryze Rise Again!

Regards
C.S.Chandrasekkar


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Oct 08, 2012 2:02 pmre: re: re: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Deborah DeGrande
I believe just a few changes here and there, Ryze could be Rocking!

Most changes in terms of useability and interface and allowing more flexibility. Flexible in interfacing with third party developed apps could be a big plus.

Would love to contribute what I could to see Ryze Rise Again!

Regards
C.S.Chandrasekkar

.........................................

I agree C.S., Ryze CAN be active again, AND none of us understands WHY Adrian dropped the ball and left his own Network to just die.

We can only do so much. Most of it has to come from him (getting his Network active again, enhancing things and allowing NEW members!)
I mean I am paying for GOLD and the new member section is useless right now because no new members are allowed right now. I realize that there were mostly "fake" accounts signing up as he said so he is working on a better way for sign ups. I hope its soon.

This was always my favorite Social Network!

:)


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Oct 10, 2012 1:25 pmre: new rp members/Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Eileen Brown
Hiya Folks.

I've not had time to do the introduction and referral
thing as yet in this network but am happy to see lots of old
friends here too.

In all these years I've not let the ABHP network go here, I've
kept it alive albeit, not active. I have never been an FB fan,
(not ever) as it was disorganized and convoluted from the
start. I guess it's time to dust off ABHP and see if anyone
there is interested in some of the things I post at twitter
and G+ and FB. There is an ABHP at FB but the membership is
small and although I would like to get that going a little
better, I don't want to spend time at FB. That is sort of
a catch 22 for me.

At any rate gathering some long time ryzers together again
is a great idea. ONE huge plus? NO ads all over the place! Yippee!

Eileen :D



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Oct 12, 2012 8:01 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Sherry Simoes
I believe and teach my coaching clients that you need to try (faithfully) different methods and access the results. Different things work for different people and their businesses but whether it be Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, here or somewhere else everything needs to be done with relationship building in mind. Do you really need all that they offer? I think not but you take and use what you need!
It is a little irritating to ignore some of the things that happen on Facebook when you are trying to use it to build business. There are some things I do remove from my wall that just do not belong like the chicken someone gave me the other day for my Farm...I did not even know I had one! I Looking forward to other comments!


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Oct 14, 2012 2:59 pmre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

Teddy Towncrier


Hi Folks! ... Greetings from the Great White North.

I've done business from Ryze, made many treasured friends and looking forward to making many more.

I'm glad to see these Ryze forums back.

Want leverage from your Ryze posts? ... Add a Retweet or Facebook link to your Ryze posts.

TWITTER
Although someone earlier mentioned they see Twitter as "as huge cocktail parties where everyone is talking at the same time. :)" ... I see Twitter as the world's biggest cafe where I can find a table discussing my specific interests whether it's "Fatherhood over 50" or "Do it yourself Ferrari tuning". ... Not many at these tables talking over each other.

I simply follow and listen to those whose insights resonate.

The ReTweet feature provides incredible leverage.


FACEBOOK.
It's a simple click to share discoveries and add comments and/or supplemental resources, with a single click. ... Again; Valuable leverage when posts resonate and are "Liked" and/or "Commented".

Easy for a thread to evolve.

Retweets and Likes frequently transform into millions of unexpected and very welcome exposures.


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Oct 15, 2012 9:53 amre: Ryze vs Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,etc.#

T.E.A.M. Mom!
Thanks everyone for such a great topic thread! I have to say I am so happy to see that I am not alone on my feelings in re to many of the social networking sites out there, especially Facebook. I have been here on Ryze since March 2004 and have made every effort to keep "It" going for whatever time I could and use my Ryze URL as my calling card, as corny as it might sound.

For me, Ryze is my foundation, here is where I got my feet wet for the first time with online networking (something I still do not feel comfortable with) and the whole thrust forward into the 21st century. By this, having to make that initial step into educating myself on how to actually use my computer and know what to do with it :) It has been a gradual, although slow evolution on my part, but I try every time I hit that start button.

Of course I did cave a bit, and decided to venture out into waters of the unknown (Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, even Plaxo) and found the social media universe scattered and not sociable at times. Dividing the time between them all, keeping track of what I said, who to reply to, which group to join, was and at times is beyond mind boggling (how do people really do it). Weeding out and really sinking my teeth into what I want to follow, RT, Share, Link, Post, Tag, has become a game in my mind, as I sit down and stare at my computer screen day to day.

Many people have made fun of me when I say, "Hey are you on Ryze?" or I ask, "Why not sign my guestbook or drop me a PM?" the responses I have gotten sometimes come wrought a sly indirect chuckle like, "What you are still there, why?" And of course, not afraid to speak my mind, happily say, "I never left!" Sometimes it opens up a new door of friendship, or a question or two of what Ryze is, the benefits (which I share good and bad) and tell them to be sure to look me up.

As for LinkedIn, honestly I very rarely if ever drop by, or even share anything... I am in a few groups, ask me what is happening and I will give you a blank stare. Plaxo, well that was just another place I thought I had to be, that went nowhere and left me with a bored to death when ever I thought of visiting there. Twitter, gosh one of my favorite places to just sit and read the most interesting things, especially my favorites and with a simple click, RT it so I will never lose it.

Facebook, hmmm that new kid on the block! I cringed at the very thought of having a page (now I have 2) and when my friends and family kept bothering me almost daily, I caved. In the beginning it was a great way to keep in touch with everyone, re connect with old friends, so on and than I started to receive messages from Ryze friends, some of which I hadn't heard from in years. That is when I realized that no matter what resistance I might have towards moving forward, life was not stopping and either I ran with the pace or get left in the dust.

Finding the happy medium and balance in everything you do in life is accessible, it takes time, patience and yes, being able to express who you are! What ever choices or decisions a person takes whether it personal or business, essentially are all comprised of who we are as an individual, you just have to be strong enough to take that first step. Much success to you always, Patricia

PS - Thanks Paul :)


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Sep 12, 2013 1:27 pmCelebrating 1 year back on Ryze - Sept 2013#

Paul Finkelstein @ OMGtalk.com (Updated) 10/29/19


Welcome back Ryze gang and many new members too!

P





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Sep 13, 2018 11:51 amre: Celebrating 14 years back on Ryze - Sept 2018#

Paul Finkelstein @ OMGtalk.com (Updated) 10/29/19

Maybe time to revisit this topic and ryze up
Here again ....

P

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