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| | Post New Topic | | You are such a good moderator, I quit! | Views: 330 | | Jun 04, 2004 8:01 pm | | You are such a good moderator, I quit! | # | 
Dave Hamilton | | You're not going to "spar" with me because you can't. There is and was no "bait." Again, since you seem learning-impaired, Scott, I refer you to my post where I answered a question simply, honestly, and in good taste. Frankly, I was shocked to see that you would consider the post in any other way. Keep reading, you might learn something:
>"Your opinion is yours and you are entitled to it, just as I am to mine. You should learn that lesson." is insulting to me.
That's whiny, Scott, and you are as sensitive as Jennifer Turner, it seems. Try maturing a bit or growing thicker skin. Not everyone in life is going to share your opinion, no maztter how many "networks" you have.
>"For someone who prides himself on network knowledge and how to address others, I think your post below and tone are extremely course and, to use your expression, WAY out of line." That's "coarse", not "course", and I find this insulting as well.
You are correct in the spelling..I must have been disturbed and typing fast after reading your incredibly insulting e-mail to me.
>And you're being incredibly insulting to Sue.
Sue, the ultimate victim of everything? Give her your crying towel. Better yet, both of you use it and grow up in the meantime.
>Dave, I have received multiple private complaints about you and your attitude on this network, including the particular post in question. I found it improper, and at least three other people did, as well.
Three others? That would be about right..the same cyber-stalkers who try to takke issue with anything I post and who allow anything to be posted by anyone else without remark, unless it is by Dave Hamilton.
That's why I chose to delete it and posted the message I did.
No, you chose to delete the post because you know there was nothing whatsoever wrong with it, and by killing it, you can now lie to your heart's content about it...drive on, son, it's YOUR network as you say.
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>This is MY virtual home on the web, and you are a guest in it. You are offending me, and my guests.
Do you honestly believe you haven't insulted and offended me????
I'm spelling it out for you as clearly as I possibly can. If you insult me or the other guests in my home again -- and it is ENTIRELY up to me to decide what is insulting
My, aren't you the righteous and correct one!
Surely the fact that this has occurred to you on several networks now should tell you that maybe you have a part in this, and that it's really not something wrong with "everybody else".
On several networks at the urging of the same people, and a handful of moderators, including you, who lack the moral courage, to be fair.
>Last warning.
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No need to warn me, sonny, I want no part of you or your "home." You are disgusting.
Dave
Private Reply to Dave Hamilton | | Jun 04, 2004 8:32 pm | | re: You are such a good moderator, I quit! | # | 
Scott Stratten | | "No need to warn me, sonny, I want no part of you or your "home." You are disgusting."
I have an idea Dave, who hopefully left this group anyways: You want to see disgusting? Set up your own network and take a lot of time and effort into growing it and helping people unconditionally and have someone come on and kick your in the shins and tell you why he should be allowed to in your house and that you should enjoy it. It feels pretty icky.
I don't think you're "Using Ryze Effectively" at this moment in time.
Scott
Private Reply to Scott Stratten | | Jun 04, 2004 8:58 pm | | You are such a good moderator, I quit! Scott (s) ? | # | 
Sue T. | | Boy go to work and all H*ll breaks loose. hu? :) You guys do a terrific job both of you guys. As well as Terry over in the writer network where some of this seemed to originate this a.m. (I could be mistaken I missed alot of them today)
Never let one bad egg spoil things for every one else. I notice a couple of lurkers came out to day as well.. OMG! I have to go! sorry... You boys do an excellent job. Never ever never question the way you run your networks. I have a huge amount of respect for the both of you. :)
Be bk soon :)
Sue T.
> Scott Stratten wrote:
> "No need to warn me, sonny, I want no part of you or your "home." You are disgusting."
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>I have an idea Dave, who hopefully left this group anyways: You want to see disgusting? Set up your own network and take a lot of time and effort into growing it and helping people unconditionally and have someone come on and kick your in the shins and tell you why he should be allowed to in your house and that you should enjoy it. It feels pretty icky.
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>I don't think you're "Using Ryze Effectively" at this moment in time.
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>Scott
Private Reply to Sue T. | | Jun 06, 2004 5:58 am | | re: You are such a good moderator, I quit! | # | 
Lorin Ricker | | > Dave Hamilton wrote:
>No need to warn me, sonny, I want no part of you or your "home." You are disgusting.
>Dave
Does this mean that Dave has left the building? I sure hope so.
I may be wrong, but it looks to me like DH posted one of the most egregious sins that can be done on any network discussion group: He took a private communication, a "flame-war" exchange and fight he was trying to pick with our moderator, and made it public so that he could sling venom for all to see. What he's done in his "...I quit!" posting is simply beneath contempt, and I hope he's gone for good.
DH's postings were, almost from his first examples, laden with undercurrents of "me, me, me first" and "you're mistaken (you're an idiot)". In short, he's a good example of someone who habitually violates the first rule of posting, namely: "Don't take it personnally", and it's corollary: "Assume best intentions in others". As a result of his personal style, when our intrepid moderator has tried to gently guide him back to URE's posting rules and guidelines, he started personalizing it, and then escalated things into an unprovoked, personal war. If you line up and review his postings objectively, from his first to his last, there's a discernable, definite trend here.
Seems like nearly any and every constructive, healthy network (Ryze or outside of it) manages to attract one or more of these types. I was, up to just recently, simply skipping over DH's posting, trying to ignore them, or the worst of them. However, things seem to have come to a recent head.
Scott Allen has asked for feedback from URE members as a sort of sanity check, and he asked that PMs be used for this since he's trying to do an objective evaluation. Fair enought --- I've sent him my own PM response, but I do want to go on record publicly in support of URE's (and Ryze's) posting guidelines and rules, as well as full support for Scott's role as moderator here, including his wisdom, counsel and practical leadership. Fellow members, I encourage you to voice your views either privately to Scott or publicly herein, but do so in a reasoned, measured, civil and constructive manner --- don't fall into DH's trap.
I'd hate to see this valuable URE network spoiled by one bad actor's flare-up and temper-tantrum. Scott, don't waiver or doubt what you've been doing here. Take fresh courage. I'm with you, and I hope and trust that a great majority of others are too.
-- Lorin
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