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What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?Views: 1095
Nov 19, 2005 2:48 amWhat is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

David Healy
I was curious about what is the hardest part about Internet marketing based on your experience.

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Nov 19, 2005 5:51 pmre: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Garland Coulson
Hi David,

I coach a lot of people on Internet marketing and here are a few of the things many of them struggle with.

1. Identifying the right target market to attract.

2. Understanding the need for tracking their marketing and committing to purchasing and using systems that will let them track their marketing.

3. Understanding that a web site is the beginning of their marketing program, not the end.

4. Embracing a wide range of marketing techniques rather than just focusing on Google ranking.

Garland Coulson, "The E-Business Tutor" - Moderator, IMTools
Free Traffic For Your Web Site Everyday
http://www.freetrafficbar.com
Internet Marketing Mentor
http://www.ebusinesstutor.com

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Nov 28, 2005 1:39 amre: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Jerry Goodwin
i don't know how everyone else feels about this but the hardest thing for me is trying to fit the marketing online in while tryong to work two jobs to make a living. It is not so much about learning the ropes or not knowing what to do as it is about finding the time to do these things.

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Nov 28, 2005 7:53 amre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Amy Knowles
Have any of you added this tool bar and what kind of results have you received? What is your general impress of this tool?

Amy Knowles
Swirls of Color
Wholesale art, decoupage, handmade gifts and furniture.
www.swirlsofcolor.com
swirlsofcolor@adelphia.net

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Nov 28, 2005 5:00 pmre: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Garland Coulson
Hi Jerry,

Of course it is hard. Working two jobs and then trying to market on the web must be creating some insane hours for you.

When I first launched my business, I tried to do it part time for a while, but I found I wasn't available enough for phone calls for teaching my courses, so I took the risk and jumped into it full time.

Not everyone can do that, so here are some ideas to help you deal with the time problems.

1. Choose a single online opportunity instead of a bunch of different ones.

2. Online networking like Ryze works well for marketing for people with time but not as well for people who don't have the time to browse networks and post lots. I would recommend you only use places like Ryze for help (not marketing) and use techniques like in #3.

3. Use free and low cost advertising to drive traffic to your opportunity landing page. You will need to become a master at finding, testing and tracking to find the best advertising places for your opportunity. Once such free place is my Free Traffic Bar at http://www.freetrafficbar.com. I also provide free training to Free Traffic Bar members on how to advertise successfully online.

Garland Coulson, "The E-Business Tutor" - Moderator, IMTools
Free Traffic For Your Web Site Everyday
http://www.freetrafficbar.com
Internet Marketing Mentor
http://www.ebusinesstutor.com

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Dec 17, 2005 6:29 pmre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Chris Rempel
I also had to take the risk and jump right in.

My situation is different than most, though, as I'm 21 with no family to support, no mortgage, etc.

But I think it was the fact that "If I don't succeed at this, I'm screwed!", that made all the difference.

The difference was now that I was full time, I had to do things out of NECESSITY, not convenience.

When I was still working at a job and casually working on the biz in the evening, there was no sense of urgency or will to succeed - because I knew "everything would be okay" as I still had my paycheck coming in...

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And so the hardest part for me was ignoring doubt, throwing "security" out the window and doing this like my life depended on it...

Because it did.

That was close to 3 years ago, and alot has changed since. I've experienced many failures and some successes.

But the most valuable thing I've been able to "cash in on" from internet marketing is LEARNING from and meeting other successful people. (That's a fast-track to internet success, by the way).

I had to stop stubbornly thinking that I "knew it all".

Being open to learning from others and actually putting into action what you learn will change not only your results, but more importantly, your mindset.

You will begin to see opportunities right in front of you that you would have never noticed previously - and when you ACT on these opportunities, you'll become addicted to it.

All I can say is that if you stick with it, your persistence, perseverance and faith will be rewarded BIG time!

To your success,

-Chris

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Dec 18, 2005 10:12 amre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Gali Pushkin
Hi Garland,
Thanks for your tips. I suppose they can be helpful not only for Jerry.
I just asked advice on B2B how to begin marketing my new Cafepress shop. The problem is that it belongs to a company, not completely my own (has domain of 3d level). Can I use a freetraffic bar for it, what do you say?

Gali
Images for All Occasion
Gifts for All Occasion

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Dec 18, 2005 11:45 amre: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Terry Vermeylen
I find the hardest part about Internet marketing is finding out what tool (s) gives me the best ROI (return on investment). I have done a huge amount of work including, optimizing search engine results, creating an ezine, networking, writing articles…etc. I am now creating a flash tour to create a motivational response with potential clients. This will be key.

There is intense competition for goal setting sites on the Internet and it’s a huge challenge to differentiate myself from my competitors. Why choose me? The flash tour will certainly be huge, as the tour, imagery and even music will allow potential clients to clearly understand my concept and methodology.

Now ROI means both driving traffic to my site and then also getting people to sign up. A double whammy. My ezine will be launched in January, which will also help. All these tools I’m building are seeds blooming to flower in the future as I build up my entire business. Two other keys tools are perseverance and passion. Without those I would be one of the 9 out of 10 business that fold.

Terry Vermeylen
You Always Have A Choice
http://mylifechanges.com

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Dec 18, 2005 12:50 pmre: re: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

CK Aspinwall
Hello Everyone,

The hardest part of internet marketing is wading through all the hype and senseless claims. It takes a lot of time to sift and filter through it all.

Five years ago, I came to the internet just before the Dot Com Bomb and the MLM Implosion. I literally saw the net crumble before my eyes.

I finally learned how to build a customer list, which must come first. I also learned that online marketing can only be a supplement to my warm marketing.

I could go on and on, but it's all about the learning curve. It can be very frustrating and this will tempt you to quit. Rather than quit, just take a rest and come back with a fresh mind.

This will help you. Unless a person can show you how to build a customer list, what good is his/her system. The net is full of systems. Some are dead and gone. Others have survived.

I've been on the net long enough to be numbered among the survivors. So, check people's experience because on the net, a good sounding philosophy is just not enough.

Track records count. Look for the experience. It is better to be referred to others rather than depend on the hype.

Ken

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Dec 18, 2005 5:24 pmre: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Garland Coulson
Hi Gail,

Yes, the Free Traffic Bar at http://www.freetrafficbar.com can be used to market affiliate or MLM links in addition to your own site.

Garland Coulson, "The E-Business Tutor" - Moderator, IMTools
Free Traffic For Your Web Site Everyday
http://www.freetrafficbar.com
Internet Marketing Mentor
http://www.ebusinesstutor.com

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Dec 18, 2005 9:11 pmre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

CK Aspinwall
Hi Garland,

Glad to see you around.

I tried to load the Traffic Bar and one of the pics or buttons did not load. Maybe I tried to see the movie and it did not load.

I realize that it's something about my computer, but have no idea. I've tested on another computer and everything loads fine.

What might be the problem? I would love to go back and see the video about Traffic bar.

Ken Aspinwall
http://beam.to/brilliant

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Dec 19, 2005 5:35 pm re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Garland Coulson

Hi Terry,

It is critical to track your Return on Investment (ROI) for every type of marketing and advertising you do online.

To do this, it is critical that you have a tracking system in place that will track conversions, not just clickthroughs.  You can use services like ClickTracks or 1ShoppingCart for this.

Once you have this in place, the proper technique is to test various opportunities with various forms of advertising and marketing in a 30 day period and calculate your ROI for each one.  Then, each month, you keep what works, dump the non-performers, and invest in new advertising techniques.

It lacks the overhyped glamour of what most "gurus" put out there about becoming a millionaire overnight, but it is a system that truly works.  And you can use this technique to test whatever the "gurus" say you should do.

Garland Coulson, "The E-Business Tutor" - Moderator, IMTools
Free Traffic For Your Web Site Everyday
http://www.freetrafficbar.com 
Internet Marketing Mentor
http://www.ebusinesstutor.com

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Dec 19, 2005 7:27 pmre: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Garland Coulson
Hi Ken,

Best to send Free Traffic Bar support questions to me via a support ticket rather than in this group.

I did test the videos on my computer and they work fine. The videos are in Flash, so you could try updating your Flash in your browser.

Garland Coulson, "The E-Business Tutor" - Moderator, IMTools
Free Traffic For Your Web Site Everyday
http://www.freetrafficbar.com
Internet Marketing Mentor
http://www.ebusinesstutor.com

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Dec 26, 2005 3:44 amre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Lamar Morgan 954-603-7901
How do you think Web 2.0 services will impact Internet marketing process? Do you think they will add to the confusion or actually solve some of the current difficulties? Do you think a service like Squidoo will one day have as much impact as say Yahoo and Google had with the original version of the Internet?

Lamar Morgan
CDMM
Creating a buzz for business in the boardroom

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Dec 26, 2005 4:51 amre: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

CK Aspinwall
Garland,

That was the right advice.

I thought I had already upgraded Flash and evidently something didn't take. Anyway, I got something that required Flash and I clicked to update. Coincidentally, this solved the problem.

I can now go back and enjoy the official web page of the Spencer Davis Group. I will check on yours, too, and thanks.

Ken

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Jan 16, 2006 4:44 amre: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Andre' Morse
Number one thing to remember as far as marketing no one and I mean no one can guarantee a number 1 ranking in any search engine. A lot of SEO companies do this. They are not to be trusted at all. Especially if they say google. They are lying if they say otherwise.

http://www.google.com/webmasters/

Go over this pages info read through it all it will protect you from people who just want to bill you for an service that you do not need. It will also show you the code you need to come up with your own keywords to tell your web designer to put into effect on your web Site or pages.

also remember to have the robot.txt file or have the source code for spiders and robots placed on your sites source code. This is an invitation to search engines to come and inspect your site for inclusion in there search engines.

Before you invite any spider or robot to do this make sure that your site is completely finished with all meta tags in the correct places. Otherwise your site will not be indexed.

Not sure if your site has been submitted for search engine review.

http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl

Here is where you can do it at google.

Submit as many times as you like you are not penalized for doing so. But there is no need to.

Links the more you have the higher you are going to be placed in the engines. Must be valid links to other companies.

Having the right name also helps. Never choose a name more than 10-15 characters long. People hate typing unless you are a coder. People tend to forget an old saying I learned in the military.

K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid. That is not meant as a insult. If you make things to complicated people are not going to come back to your site.

Hardest thing I have had a problem with was finding a design firm, to build and construct my multiple sites I wanted to do,that all changed when I met my business partner online.


Check out these sites we are doing and by the way I am doing that hard internet marketing right now. Just by placing these links here.

www.happycpus.com

www.happyhelplive.com

www.dreamsto.com

www.wehostdot.com


Have ?s feel free to ask.

Won't give all the secrets away though.

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Jan 17, 2006 2:44 pmre: re: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Robert Attieh
Good Advice Andre,

Search Engine Ranking is very critical.

There are a lot of FREE methods and a lot of paid programs to help us get the results we need. The FREE methods work but they just take time.

I find that a lot of people just don't have the time or don't focus and make the time.

I think it is very important to set a goal of what you want accomplished on a daily basis and make sure that happens.

Robert Attieh
http://www.the-best-free-home-business-opportunity.com/

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Jan 28, 2006 8:16 pmre: re: re: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Cyndi Seidler
Robert, can you give us an idea of what the FREE tools are that are available? Research seems to be never-ending with Internet Marketing and I keep running into things that sound "too good to be true" so that makes me skeptical enough not to even try.

I'm trying to find out if the Free Traffic Bar thing is a good thing -- and it doesn't appear to really be "free" unless I'm missing something while reading over the home page info.

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Feb 02, 2006 10:56 pmre: re: re: What is the hardest part about Internet marketing?#

Angela King
Hey Chris

I appreciated your comments about just going for it! It's a do or die situation for my partner and I right now. We're at rock bottom and ready to quit, but the only thing scarier than sticking with it is what will happen if we quit.

We have a marketing & web design company that helps people turn their websites into powerful sales tools. I love what we do and really want to free people from wasting their money on a site that doesn't sell. Unfortunately there's a lot more to it than that.

Anyhow, thanks for the inspirational words!

ps - I'm from Kelowna too!!

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