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Chennai - In FutureViews: 1010
Dec 05, 2005 6:40 amChennai - In Future#

Sathish Kumar
I would like to know all of you out there to post your dream of Future chennai .

Let us see , what we can think about future chennai to be .

Come on start dreaming ... OOPS! Start posting your views .

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Dec 05, 2005 7:26 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Riya

Hi sathish,

I had already dreamt up and put up my response in the "cricket" posting that CHennai could be a Venice if its going to be surrounded by water !! I know it will just remain a beautiful dream....

Well, first and foremost its becoming a "happening" city due to the IT parks and the malls / multiplexes, IMAX etc that are being planned. I can see a ultra modern city already !! But recently I guess its in MSN a report said, TN (Chennai included) is heading towards becoming Bhopal, due to the industrial pollution....this is quite scary.

This needs to be pondered over....am sure we are going to get some great ideas soon...

Radhika

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Dec 05, 2005 7:39 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Sathish Kumar
Well ,

It was really "you" , who inspired me to post this question .

Thanks Radhika , happy ryzing .

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Dec 05, 2005 3:09 pmre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Would like to see the adyar river commutable. Less road rage. And for all chennaites living abroad a good touch down at airport.

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Dec 05, 2005 5:36 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Poseidon
Radhika,

Me thinks Its already a Happening City and will keep on Happening ....... in the near Future [how near,cant say] it will be literally "A City of Joy,Peace,Love,Technology, Tranquility---you name it and it will there".A True Haven for Chennai'ites Young and Old.

Raj

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Dec 05, 2005 6:16 pmre: Chennai - In Future#

Riya
Hey Thanks Sathish, am glad i hv inspired someone to ponder...and Raj, its nice to know there is another person who likes this city as well....believe me, only when i go out of this city, i realise, how good our city is....

Hey folks, it will nice if we get some ideas of improving / improvising or any ideas to make this more beautiful....

Radhika

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Dec 05, 2005 6:34 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
hmmmm..to get back all those parks we once had. To restore some civic sense among the public.To make the beaches reachable and enjoyable for the kids. I can think of lot more things.

While I do agree what Radhika said about leave the city and then feel how good the city was, it is also necessary to leave the city and look at cities outside India to see what more could be done to improve.

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Dec 06, 2005 4:49 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Alladi Mahadevan
One of the major problem with Chennai is we have not seen this kind of rains.

We do not have a good storm water drain. The small storage like temple tanks, small ponds and small lakes around the city were just about enough to handle the rains earlier.

The major reservoirs on the outskirts had never reached the optimum level so far.

The strategy was and is --> when there is an overflow send it to the sea.

On the other side the sewage system also took a part of the load.

The problem is we never had this kind of rains. It is just not the government that has to be blamed it is also the residents of chennai who need to take a part of it. Well if I am wrong what is their contributions over the last few decades.

Not trying to hurt the sentiments of Chennaites but trying to bring in some kind of a drive within them. No point in crying over spilled milk.

Let us act now. I think if people get in touch with Mrs.Kanchana Ravichandran you will know how to volunteer. I met her thro Ryze and learnt a lot from her.

She and her friend run a NGO that aims at self employment amont Tsunami victims. They do anything from public lavatory cleaning to garment making.


A.Mahadevan

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Dec 06, 2005 9:25 amre: Chennai - In Future#

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Dec 07, 2005 3:36 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
In the future, with Singularity happening and our abilities to live online in virtual worlds, I suspect the following will happen:
1. There will be infinite space (after all virtual space is all in your head)
2. No problems like roads, drains, rains etc..
3. No problems of pollution etc. In fact there will be no need for travel as in the world of the mind, travel is instantaneous.
4. No need to eat.. just enough energy to keep those computers running and keep your bits and bytes alive ;-)

Bharat

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Dec 08, 2005 10:45 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Gyro
As we all know traffic is becoming big problem in Chennai. Governement have taken some efforts to reduce the traffic by changing the topography of the city (One-way in many places), by constructing flyover wherever felt it is required (some in pipeline), by widening the road to the maximum possible extent (some in pipeline) and by changing MRTC to Koyambedu. The challenge here is that the infrastructure is constant but the population is variable. Every year the numbers of vehicles are increased but to the same degree we won’t be in a position to increase the basic facility. That too now we would prefer to have four wheeler (apart from two wheeler) that would again increase the traffic as the size also matters.

The feasible solution what comes up in my mind:

1. Chennai is not well connected by electric train like Mumbai. Now only a new line has come up by connecting Mylapore and adayar belt and some of the stations in that route are yet to be completed. One more belt, which is uncovered by electric train feasibility, is Porur, Naddambakkam (Chennai Trading Centre), Ekaduthankal, Ashoknagar, Vadapalani, Koyambedu, Annanagar and in-between areas. I don’t know whether govt has done any feasibility study to cover those areas by ET and other areas similar to this that has the potential to connect by ET.

2. Lot of traffic during office hours in the morning and evening. The employees can stay nearby their offices so that they need not have to travel all the way to reach their main office by traveling through lot of main roads on the way from their house. By doing this we save time, energy and petrol and also be relieved from heavy traffic. It is very difficult to follow but possible if we compromise on our social status little.

3. While laying the road the contract should not be given to any dam, dick and harry in the name of tender (L1). The govt can select few good guys like L&T, who should also maintain the road for a period of time after it is laid. So that they will maintain the quality. The situation like heavy downpours are always exceptional even to major cities.

V.K.L. Raamanathan

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Dec 08, 2005 10:57 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Balaji Dandapani
I agree 100% with you on the Roads part..

Like all other products tenders should include a maintenance contract, that will place the ownership of upkeep with one entity.

Balaji

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Dec 08, 2005 11:33 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Kanchana Ravichandran
Hi all,
Think this is the right time to tell you about Vision India Clubs. As many of you would know about the visionindia2020 website - url is http://www.indiavision2020.org.
The moderator is Mr. K Srinivasan of Prime Point Foundation.

Once I was discussing with him of having a Vision 2020 plan for Tamil Nadu when he hit at starting Vision India clubs in each State and create a sort of awareness on the possibilities of each one taking India forward.

Am very glad to inform you that this idea has got on very well and there is a Visionindia Bangalore chapter. A mail from Yamini, a college student in Chennai requesting us to launch the Chennai chapter has shaken me from my complacency and am looking for like-minded people who have a strong love for their Motherland and wish to contibute in every way they can - either through ideas or getting involved.

I request you all to give your ideas and suggestions on how we can take this forward. Take care all
kanchana

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Dec 08, 2005 12:43 pmre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharath Cola
Hi All

I am a true blue chennaiate!!! So much so, that in 1996 as a 26yr old, i quit a lucrative job in UAE - simply because i missed this lovely city of chennai and my people here and came back - deciding not to go else where!!!

have managed to build my career here since then, ducking every good offer to go abroad since then - cause i love this city so very much, not that i today miss my company paid foreign trips!!!

hence, i am excited about this question on future chennai!

I see very little change in the infrastructure facility improving in the core of the city.

but envisage a state of the art infrastructure down I.T corridor from taramani,

Mahendra City and the likes are dream plans in the city outskirts and they are gonna be cool places for the future to reside in

I envisage a 8 lane high way connecting guindy to mahendra city and beyond.

I forsee mount road having fly overs with nonstop traffic flowing from war memorial area right upto guindy - which connects the traffic to airport directly!!!

I forsee a lot of greenary inside the city - with well maintained parks and roadways in the future.

I foresee all the slums in the river banks evacuated and decent allocated accomodation in housing board colonies for those people in the outskirts.

river banks will have wonderful greenary and restaurants with waterways for both commuting and pleasure rides - a la thames!

Future Chennai will have no power cuts and broadband connectivity at every door or even the entire city on wireless network!!!

No water problem in the future, this year rain lashing being an exception. So Chennai to have a back up of desalination plant to ensure water supply at all times!

Autos and their fleasing of passengers will be replicated with state of the art airconditioned public transporation at affordable rates!

Future Chennai Sea Port will be like the state of the art port like guangzhuo port in china to increase flow of exports from our city. Thus increasing the per capita income of today's poor chennaiate, with foreign investments in telecom and I.T and electronic companies investing in our city!!

I see all schools with computer labs educating the future technologies to our children even in all corporation schools.

Govt officials at all levels working with the same dedication of private sector and their senior officials !!!

Free healthy food (like what they serve in large factories for their employees in their pantries)for every child in the city at schools and 100% education to all children

Chennai SBM and Industries like - I.T, Automobiles, Electronincs, Banking and Finance, Manufacturing segments thriving in abundance....

not to forget - enormous amount of entertainment - with discos, movie halls, digital experience zones with simulating experiences of beyund space etc!!!

phew!! thanx for all, who had the patience reading this far!

cola



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Dec 08, 2005 4:43 pmre: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Sathish Kumar
That is "The Future Chennai". Nice thoughts cola . I love chennai too. There is no place on earth which is close to my heart as chennai .

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Dec 08, 2005 5:23 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
IMO,IT is only an enhancer to any business. To make that as the prime and improving that alone will make chennai loose out in other areas.

The Automobile industry is growing with high international stake, we should be not forget that.

Serene beaches are lost with a lot of commercialization. These should make a comeback and be made available to the common man.

Textile industry,esp the sarees should be enhanced.

All business needs customers.Customers need to travel to the shop, and therefore Commuting should be made more pleasant.

Public toilets(civic sense) should be built for easy access.

Remember the current young population will age. And therefore easy accessibility should be available.

Parks have to be built in every section and people should be encouraged to take a walk in those.

Future should not loose the nostalgic old chennai, so leave somethings as what they are. For example the Ranganathan street vegetable market with improvement to walk.

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Dec 09, 2005 5:07 amre: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Gyro
Hi Cola,

Everyone would love to have city like mentioned by you. But before solving the prevailing problems (basic infrastructure of city) if we have some good ideas than we could visualize focused chennai only in dream. Assume a situation where Bill Gates would like to visit Siruseri to see Present IT park in a day just after a (heavy) rainy day. What would he think if the Car jumps up & down even on the main roads due to poor quality & maintenance, besides water clogging? (Bill Gates visiting Chennai today). Bringing IT parks does not take much of a time. Due care to be given for reaching those places also. If you see today’s underwater drainage on the main road, the wastewater goes into one drainage and comes out from another drainage, rather than reaching its destination.

The days won’t be far to become all your thoughts real if proper planning done by Chennai corporation.

V.K.L. Raamanathan

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Dec 09, 2005 6:52 amre: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharath Cola
Folks,

Satish asked us to "Dream" and Dream I did, without much thought on its implimentation... :-)))

Cola

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Dec 09, 2005 7:47 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Gyro
Agreed friend, for making the dream real we need to wake-up first from sleeping. Only dreaming without future course of action is not worth single pie.

V.K.L. Raamanathan

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Dec 09, 2005 8:26 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Sathish Kumar
Dear Raam ,

Your arguments are pretty good . But why is that you always take the discussions to a different mode all together . Here , I am just asking for people to post about their dream for chennai .


Action is very important , you are right . However , Instead of asking others , let us ask ourselves about what we have done to the city . Blaming government or asking others about their course of action does not help my friend .Either we have to initiate and ask others to join , Like what Kanchana does or be happy to live with it without questioning others about their dreams.

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Dec 09, 2005 8:55 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Gyro
Dear Sathish,

I took this discussion as very good opportunity to ignite people rather than time passing. If any one who inspired may take an action.

Yes, you are right that in the recent discussions I had to took different stand due to the nature of its subject. If you read my posting on board under recent posting "Hangover effects and cure" you will understand that there are cases where I get along.

When some say Sachin has not played well for the match,I feel that it would be irrelevant to ask what they have done for Cricket.

Happy ryzing .

V.K.L. Raamanathan

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Dec 09, 2005 9:16 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Ram

I agree that we need cheap non-polluting means of transportation around the city.

We probably need 6-8 lines going in different directions and 2 rings --> inner and outer to enable people to travel from anywhere to anywhere. Only such a system would truly make people try out trains.

I would definitely like electric trains in teh following routes:
1. Porur, Naddambakkam (Chennai Trading Centre), Ekaduthankal, Ashoknagar, Vadapalani, Koyambedu, Annanagar and in-between areas --> as suggested by Ram.
2. Adayar, Palavakkam, VGP, Mutthukadu, Mahabs --> This is one area where lot of people live and depend solely on own vehicles or busses to travel.

I think the Mypalore - Adayar - Thiruvanmiyur route is already complete, though I am not sure how often trains run on this track...

We could also have an inner ring and an outer ring connecting stations in a smaller circle and a larger circle. E.g.:
Inner Ring:
Parrys -> Purasawakam --> Kilpauk --> Arumbakkam --> Vadapalani --> Ashok Nagar --> Guindy --> IIT --> Indiranagar --> Shastri Nagar --> Beasant Nagar --> RA Puram / Mandaveli --> Royapettah/Triplicane --> Island Grounds --> Parrys

Cant think of an outer ring.

Apart from this, we should have trains going in all directions. And the rings should meet trains going out in other directions.

Bharat

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Dec 09, 2005 11:47 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharath Cola
Hi Folks,

I remember an old saying which goes like this...

"when i ASSUME, I make an "ASS' out of "U" and "ME".

thats why i didnt assume any contribution beyound what the author of this topic stated us to participate in it for !!!

;-)
Cheers
Cola

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Dec 09, 2005 12:20 pmre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Living outside Chennai (India for that matter)for a very long time, have created a lot of unknowns about the city.The last time I was in India, LPG was a means of fuel in some cars. What's happening to this? Isn't that a cleaner fuel and more readily available? Can we not have our buses have this as an alternative?

What about battery powered LRTs like the one in Singapore for local Industrial parks?

How about some time consciousness at every aspect of life?

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Jan 11, 2006 11:19 amre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
I would like to see a chennai where the centre is decongested and most businesses and homes move to suburbs.

Bharat

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Jan 12, 2006 9:34 amre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Balaji Dandapani
As Ganesh has mentioned, CNG is a lot less polluting and cheaper fuel. In Delhi ALL public transport (Buses, Autos and taxis) run on CNG. A lot of private vehicles also use CNG. Some do use the normal LPG Cylinders, but it is dangerous and very explosive.

I guess our chennai transport should also initiate this fuel here to ensure a cleaner chennai.

Also as a lot of people have mentioned, there are hardly any parks or green belts worth its salt in Chennai. Living in T.Nagar, we are lucky that the Natesan Park has been taken up for upkeep and is properly maintained atleast for the walkers and joggers - sorry I've no idea of such parks in other areas. On the other hand the Panagal Park has become a strict no-no for any decent citizens (this was about a year back and i've not checked it out recently).

These 2 action items will be the most feasible and easily implementable projects that can be looked into immediately.

Cheers
Balaji

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Jan 13, 2006 2:30 pmre: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Has hybrid cars cropped up in Chennai? TOyota and Honda makes them and supplies them to the rest of the world. While we are all ok with foreign investment in Chennai(esp Automobile) we should not be a dumping ground for cars that cannot be sold in other nations.

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Jan 14, 2006 9:56 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Asif Ali
dudes,

raaaaaaaaam a anathan begs to differ always, it is that way of garnering some cheap publicity ;-)...im outspoken and frank, so please excuse dear rama.


about billgates coming to chennai ;-)..well he;s gotta accept whatever it is, but if he does mind the potholes then we can fix a bose magnetic suspension system,..visit bose.com.....that should solve the problem and he can have his dream ride to siruseri

Those thoughts were great cola, dreaming is the first step, achieving it is the next....

ABOUT OTHER THINGS
>Yes honda, scorpio have showed off their hybrids at this auto show in Delhi, & they should be launching them soon..
hopefully


Asif

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Jan 15, 2006 4:06 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

S S
OK! I admit that I have not read the previous posts except for the inital ones since I did not have the patience to read it. Sorry, guys. So, This might get repetitive.

Well, the Adyar river getting commutable was a brilliant suggestion. It would be really nice if it got cleaned up and some sought of a ferry was organized. If not for public then atleast for industrial goods(Just the way the Airbus A380 wing was ferried in London).

Second thing, if people stopped spitting on the roads and stopped emptying their nostrils of phlegm while in a travelling by bus on to the road would be a pleasant welcome. I had a close call this morning.

We could get rid of the slums and build better housing for them.

The city is green enough. Which is nice. It could get greener, though.

That's it from my side. I could add a bit more later on.

And yes, stop comparing this place with Bangalore because Bangalore is no way close to Chennai. Maybe it has pubs and girls and better weather but there is more to city than just these.

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Jan 20, 2006 6:13 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
I agree on that last point.

I prefer Chennai to Bangalore.

Bharat

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Jan 21, 2006 5:42 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Srinath,
Adyar river was used in olden days as a trade route.
Wasn't there a Hovercraft idea for adyar river proposed ?

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Jan 23, 2006 6:10 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

S S
Hovercraft idea? I thought Chindambaram was the only one with Hovercrafts in the city ;)

Well, it would be nice if it got implemented.

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Jan 23, 2006 1:58 pm re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
I guess I havent read the news for a while.

I sure havent heard of hovercrafts.

Bharat

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Feb 10, 2006 7:22 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Yeah, instead of building MRTS, I think it would have been cheaper to dig canals around chennai and run boats to various places around Chennai.

Hopefully that happens someday.

Of course this assumes we will have political will, and that we will have "water". :-) Might happen when all rivers are connected (which might be NEVER).

Bharat

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Feb 10, 2006 8:57 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Sathish Kumar
Will monorail do any good , if implemented . Sounds it is a better idea. But for a population like ours , would it be efficient ?

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Feb 10, 2006 9:10 amChennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Atleast for transporting goods, I have heard that water transport is the cheapest mode.

No idea how it would work for transporting people. I remember using the ferry a couple of decades back (1982-84) in Cochin, and though it was quite nifty to use it to cross the backwaters... but havent seen large scale penetration of this anywhere in India...

Bharat

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Feb 10, 2006 11:10 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Prasad
Water is said to be the cheapest transport. Anyway, even if its not, we can dream of diff. kinds of boats - row boat, motorboat (AC / non AC) with a terminus at Neelankarai and another at the harbour. Besant Nagar, Santhome, Mylapore, Triplicane could be stops in between.
Fares would obviously be in ascending order for the three types suggested. Reduce traffic on roads, simultaneously offer faster / cheaper alternate mode of transport.

Similarly invest in different types of buses from what exist now to luxury AC buses. This could be done with privatisation - fares might actually come down if this is done properly. I understand a pvt grp that ran a bus service offered to run the city bus service at lower than prevailing fares and give the Govt. a royalty / fixed fee per annum. Can we imagine how much is being lost with the current system? !
Prasad

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Feb 11, 2006 9:36 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
yeah, but if it rains the same way next year, half of chennai will be underwater.. and then of course, we can become the Venice of Asia and have boats ... i would definitely like to junk my car and get a motor boat to go around..

Bharat

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Feb 13, 2006 12:19 pmre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Satish, Where did that monorail idea come from?

Bharat

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Feb 13, 2006 6:38 pmre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Monorail will bring more congestion/construction to the existing.

I think the industrial estates can have this.

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Feb 13, 2006 10:23 pmre: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

I Am Manny
Chennai is the future people. I love Chennai so much that I’m stuck in the hellhole called Bangalore. The roads are bad and people drive like they are sitting in bump a car that we would find at MGM Dizzy World. Bangalore people have one-track minds, that why most of the roads are one-way cause they keep getting lost. Any one you read this message that is kind enough please HELP ME GET BACK TO CHENNAI. I need to get a job in Chennai ASAP. I had enough of Bangalore.

Chennai ROCKS



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Feb 14, 2006 7:11 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
It isnt that difficult to get to chennai from bangalore, is it?

;-)

Bharat

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Feb 14, 2006 5:07 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Different Strokes
Rain or Shine Chennai is always fine.

The recent down pour making an island out of Tamil Nadu is a standing example to show Chennai is par comparision with other states. (Mumbai at the drop of a hat, be it over night heavy lash of rain or brothers having family fued in the public, the stock market comes crashing down and bringing whole of India to a stand still). Kudos to all Brave souls out there.

If only there had been a good understanding and coordination between the rulling and opposition party @ TN Cola's Chennai - The Future could have already become a dream come true.

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Feb 15, 2006 3:48 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Shiv@ >>In the land of Oz>>
Mala

"Rain or Shine Chennai is always fine" - Because it shines most of the time...(including no rains at all in some of the years)...chennai is fine.

If you still insist on the above statment of yours...you should exclude Velachery, Perungudi, Sholinganallur and the likely areas. :)

Neverthless, gradual improvement of infrastructure would definitely make Chennai a better place to live. Chennai Traffic Police are probably some of the best you have now and their contribution in making sure of mobility is surely goig to be an added factor. Upcoming projects like Kathipara junction will ease the traffic and will connect many hubs with speed to market.

Cheers
Shiv@

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Feb 15, 2006 12:09 pmre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Does chennai still stop the traffic for politicians to use the road? If that is so, first thing is to stop this routine. If needed the politicians should take up a route where there is no traffic. If the entourage concept, like they show in the movies, are avoided that will be better too.

The pedestrians should be made to follow the rules too.

I have experienced both sides in this. While in Singapore, the rules for pedestrians are as strict as that for the traffic.

But over here in the US, it is the other way around. We stop the car at about 10-20 ft away if ever we see pedestrian trying to go across.As we say here the "pedestrians have the way".

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Feb 15, 2006 12:57 pmWI-FI#

jagan ram
I want whole of chennai to be a WI-FI zone.

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Feb 16, 2006 9:50 amWI-FI#

Bharat P
Yeah!

The whole Chennai on WI-FI which should be for free. And the TN government should distribute WI-FI cards for free to all computer users....

;-)

Bharat

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Feb 16, 2006 11:41 amre: WI-FI#

Shiv@ >>In the land of Oz>>
Why cards......they are in built these days...just antennas all over chennai to distribute signal would do..


Cheers
Shiva

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Feb 21, 2006 11:39 amre: re: WI-FI#

Bharat P
Yeah and cheap laptops priced at Rs. 5000. ;-)

Bharat

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Feb 22, 2006 6:34 amre: re: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

yaka michi
yep, chennai still stops for politicians. i heard of an interesting incident that happened a couple years ago... apparently the cm ms.jayalalitha was driving on mount road near the ag new life church on a sunday (they hold 3 masses then, and traffic between any two is pretty bad), and she had to apparently wait at the alexander square signal for more than half-an-hour till some traffic could be cleared. not being normal like you and me, the lady wanted to buy the property the church is located on, just to ensure that she would be able to drive through with no problems.

as the retelling goes, the church opposed the move and now they're facing some sort of problems with the law now.

and i thought somebody told me chennai was an upcoming metropolis where politics and professionalism went hand-in-hand?

pathetic, imho.

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Feb 22, 2006 7:04 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Politics always was pathetic. Nothing specific to Chennai.

But just like I dont trust Politicians, I dont trust religions organisations either...

So, I am not sure what or who to believe here.

Bharat

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Feb 22, 2006 9:35 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Ha we need a good traffic announcing boards in the roads just like we in US have huge signboards on the highways telling as to "click it or tickit" and Accidents ahead.

This is a good venture. And the roads are not that very broad in Chennai.

How about that?

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Feb 23, 2006 2:34 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Shiv@ >>In the land of Oz>>
Well..Well

Amma will want to buy anything..no matter its crowded prime area or a deserted beach property. IMO, all the temples, masques and churches should move into only residential areas and none should be in prime area...like mount road. It will bring down the traffic and will also be easier to access from home.

With the breadth of the roads in chennai.....its just that we don't have any standards for the width of the roads..ie else where in the world, rather developed countries have set standards of width of the roads in built up areas, highways, freeways, country towns etc. This included minum number of lanes, lanes with dotted-undotted dividers etc. etc. But just because someone thought building fly-overs will reduce the traffic...our chennai geniuses went ahead..now some of the areas like Alwarpet, LB Rd, Royapettah, are facing lot of issues because of these flyovers. They just didn't think about pedestrian while building these....Adyar is a best example.

But again, when our people well thought and built roads like ECR with two lanes to help move the traffic faster...our brilliant folks will start parking thier vehicle in the left most lane....it will slowly become permanant parking lots for two wheelers, cart vendors selling fruits etc. So effectively only one lanes gets used. Don't know how many of you knew that...govt had to demolish the huts of the slum before they could expand and build ECR...only to be encroached by shop keepers with some show cases outside.......God Save Chennai..God Save India from its own people.

Cheers
Shiva

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Feb 23, 2006 6:09 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
It isnt that easy to widen existing main roads, because that will involve large scale demolition of buildings and will be hard to push through at a political level...

It is probably easier to just sit and complain. ;-)

And yes, the only road standard I have heard of (which also sounds funny) is the 20 feet, 40 feet, 100 feet road etc..

In the future we wont need wider roads because 90% of the people will telecommute.

Bharat

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Feb 23, 2006 1:16 pmre: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
telecommuting is like going paperless. It will not happen that easily.

Car parking, this is an interesting subject. In the US usually if there is no sign sayig no parking, we do park on the sides of roads.

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Feb 24, 2006 4:48 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Shiv@ >>In the land of Oz>>
Ganesh Sir

Neenga Engayooo Poyitteenga :)........its time for you to visit chennai and india....

There are still few serious penalties for parking in the beginning of ECR...like opp. Adyar Bakery near thiruvanmiyur signal. But as the road takes a turn near thiruvanmiyur bus dept....things will start to ecroach the lanes.

Sir, we are talking about Road...something similar to highway...where is the question of parking or no parking? I am pretty sure you will not be allowed or you will not park on roads like west dekalb pke or north dekalb pke in US...cos that's how they developed shopping areas etc. that you drive off from the main road to find a row of shops.

Cheers
Shiva

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Feb 24, 2006 8:35 pmre: re: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Ganesh Ram
Ha, now I get it, I am not talking about TN highways either. Of course, even in some highways we do have emergency parking lanes and also places to rest other than the malls and eating places.

But even in inner roads (streets) we are allowed to do on one side of the road if there are no signs.

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Feb 25, 2006 4:03 pmChennai - In Future#

Bharat P
Interesting things to say about parking.. especially when I am currently working on the requirements of a Parking Management System in Chicago....

Yeah, Parking is big business in the US.

Bharat

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Mar 06, 2006 10:53 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
I havent parked yet on the ECR.. so dont know much about that. I have driven on that road only 2 or 3 times, and each time, I drove straight to Mahabs, stopping only once at that toll booth.

Let me try parking next time to see if someone catches me.

bharat

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Mar 08, 2006 11:07 amChennai - In Future#

Bharat P
I am hoping all the manufacturing industries - esp hitech move to Chennai... I think Chennai and surrounding regions have all the potential to become a megapolis.

Bharat

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Mar 10, 2006 6:57 amre: Chennai - In Future#

Mahesh Ganapathy
Hi,

I am a long time resident of Chennai and love this wonderful city. I feel Chennai is at an important crossroads now and is poised to become the premier investment destination. While Chennai has some huge plus points like skilled manpower, disciplined workforce, great educational facilities, availability of housing, good medical facilities etc, we also lack in (a) enough availability of potable water & (b) enough road space to commute. Would like to suggest some improvements on these 2 crucial issues:

Towards water supply, there is something that I had read a long time ago in "Mirror" magazine (don't know how many people even remember that magazine now). Anyway, there was an article about wastage of rain water and how Chennai could benefit greatly if we could store the same in our reservoirs. An idea suggested was to turn Pulicat Lake into a freshwater reservoir. This brackish water lake is just 50 kms away from Chennai and straddles T.Nadu and AP. This lake is 60 kms long and 17 kms wide, with an average surface area of 350 sq.kms and average depth of approximately 10 feet. Where the lake meets the sea, the mouth is just about 200 metres wide. It was suggested that 4 parallel giant and immensely strong walls be constructed along the mouth of this lake and all the brackish water be pumped out to the sea using massive pumps. Once the lake is dry, the lake bed (comprising of sea shells for about 1 feet) be completely excavated and further deepened, if necessary. After this, we need to wait for the N-East monsoon to set in and let the rainwater flow into and fill up the lake. Maybe this water would need to be pumped out twice or thrice, so that the salt content be completely removed and then we could have around 3000-4000 million gallons/day of freshwater for our usage. This is at least 6-10 times the current requirement (I may have got the figures wrong, but the solution is what matters). Even if we need to share this water with AP, Chennai would greatly benefit and we could counter the depletion of our ground water reserves and reduce the salinity. We have spent countless hundreds of crores on Telugu Ganga, Veeranam etc...yet nothing seems to be properly working for us, so why not try this?

Towards increasing road space, I suggest laying roads along the rivers and canals that traverse Chennai. Cooum river traverses at least 18 kms within the city, Adyar river around 15 kms and Buckingham Canal around 30 kms.....why can't we construct proper roads along these waterways and use them? Anyway, these waterways are nothing but open sewers and the space can be better utilized. We needn't fill up these waterways, merely contruct these roads alongside and above them (where they are narrow). We maybe able to immediately increase our roadspace by 20-25% here.

Folks, would like your views/comments here. Are these points feasible to implement? Can anyone suggest improvements or alternatives?

Mahesh.


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Mar 10, 2006 8:52 amre: re: Chennai - In Future#

krishnan r
Hi! Radhika! I am new to chennai Ryze! Infact I am replying to your insight of Chennai. Chennai the Madras of yore should really become like Venice of the East, and not like Bhopal or any industralized city. Pollution is so much, its in our hands and if people are careful in their way defnitely we can chart out a nice Madras!

Keep in touch! have a lovely week ahead!

krish

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Mar 11, 2006 11:18 amre: re: re: Chennai - In Future#

Bharat P
yeah agreed.

So let us build an international airport in Trichi, or Coimbatore or Madurai, and send all the manufacturing units there with huge sops and subsidies... and keep chennai only for IT and similar service sector openings....

That leaves the pollution of only vehicles.

Bharat

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Mar 25, 2006 1:40 pmChennai - In Future#

Bharat P
If we want Chennai to be the "Venice of the east", start praying for lots of rain every year like this year... In about 2 or 3 years Chennai will be underwater and people can use boats to move around like in Venice. ;-)

Brat

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