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Oct 20, 2006 3:02 amBest Tainer in Public Speaking#

Arun Chitlangia
After Nazerath, whom do u consider the BEST trainer in Public Speaking in Mumbai? Who is BEST at all India level?

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Oct 21, 2006 7:34 pmre: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Deepak Morris
What is the point of this post, Arun?

Deepak

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Oct 21, 2006 9:25 pmre: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Patrick McManus
I What is a tainer?
2 Why should any one in the world (outside of Mumbai) care
Patrick McManus

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Oct 22, 2006 5:00 pmre: re: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Arun Chitlangia
Sorry about the spelling error. Its Trainer. Well, I am curious Deepak, because so many times I have been asked this Q by my relatives, prospective clients and others.

At one point of time,Mr. Nezareth had an reputaation that no one else was close enough. I dont know the current scenerio and curious about it and would like to know from you guys if you have knowledge on this.

Thanks for ur response.

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Oct 22, 2006 9:02 pmre: re: re: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Deepak Morris
In my opinion, Arun, Nazareth's reputation is irrelevant.

Sure, he started a Public Speaking academy in an era when Public Speaking was limited to debates and elocution competitions in schools and so shot to the top as the one resource for training in Public Speaking for executives.

The situation is different now.

A generation of net-savvy seekers now turns to Google to find providers of skills they lack or perceive as lacking. Hence, Nazareth's ads in Mumbai's local trains may get him some business but the true moolah lies in getting your name to show up among the first ten on Google's search page for "Public Speaking trainer".

Of course, it also presupposes you know how to deliver content via the net.

It's a whole new ball game and the old batters are history.

Deepak

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Oct 25, 2006 8:33 amre: re: re: re: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Mary Beth Cameron
One of my career pieces is as a trainer and the most amazing trainer I've seen recently is Leonard Atlas from MissionPossible out of L.A. Incredible!

Check him out @ www.MissionPossible.com.

to your Wealth,Success
www.marybethcameron.com

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Oct 26, 2006 8:32 pmre: Best Trainer in Public Speaking#

Ajit Dembla

All,

I know the question here is on the 'trainer' - but the best training system in public speaking as per me is the Toastmasters movement.

I have seen many of my fellow toastmaster buddies get transformed in the supportive environment that toastmaster provides.

Toastmasters International is a worldwide non-profit making social body with a mission to make effective public speaking a worldwide reality.

For the uninitiated, wanting to know more - please visit www.toastmasters.org. To find a club near you - visit the "Find a Club" link. Those of you from mumbai can visit www.mtm.in and those of you in hyderabad can visit www.toastmasters.meetup.com/18

Feel free to PM me - if you need any more info.

Cheers
Ajit

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Oct 27, 2006 5:18 pmre: re: Best Trainer in Public Speaking#

Mary Beth Cameron
Ajit;

Yes, Toastmasters is FANTASTIC! I went through the entire 1st series of speeches and became an officer for one of our local clubs. Then, decided to challenge myself and move in to the advanced series .. and received such excellent support to increase my skills and confidence.

Now, when I travel to other places around the world .. I often look to see where a Toastmasters meeting is occurring and do a drop in. It is such a fantastic way to learn about other cultures and the way they language their beliefs and thoughts about self, their society and their view of the world.

Also, the extemporaneous bit that occurs during a Toastmasters meeting is one way to break through and be free of doubts, fear and limiting beliefs no matter where you are in the world! Thanks for bringing this to us, Ajit.

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Nov 23, 2006 9:29 amre: re: Best Trainer in Public Speaking#

Manirangan seetharam
Hi Ajit,
Nwe to his public speaking forum, just happen to browse few postings, and gosh they are full of tips and information on public spekaing..excellent information for any budding public speaker.. i also happen to see a link sent by you to visit the hyd toastmaster group,since i am also from hyd, i have registered myself.. an d hope to meet oyou soon in one of the forums..keep writing

cheers
manirangan

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Nov 30, 2006 11:12 amre: re: re: Best Tainer in Public Speaking#

Cindy-Michelle Waterfield
Is this the part where I am supposed to talk about myself?

I know it is generally regarded as a no-no to do this and personally I hate doing it coz I don't want anyone to think I am selling myself here, but this is the one time I think this could be appropriate...

I train speakers and I am unique in what I do.

I didn't fully appreciate my services until yesterday at a meeting between one of my clients and a top fee earning speaker who I have dealt with in the past. I was taken aback by something that was at the meeting. This global speaker, who's been on the circuit for 9 years, considered a guru in his field of customer services and a top fee commander, stated that I was the only person he had ever come across doing what I do in the speaker industry. He also told my client to 'listen to this lady because she really knows her stuff and the speaking industry'.

What do I do differently? Simple. I raise the speaker's standard to a whole different level.

How do I do this? Well this took years to learn...

After years of selling speakers in a top European speaker bureau, I decided to leave and instead of setting up another bureau (which so many of my colleagues have done over the years), I took the unusual step of helping and focusing on speakers and their speaking careers.

By using the years of experience of why I would sell one speaker to a client for a particular event over another and how I would highlight specific benefits of the speaker in certain instances yet play them down in others, I now use these same skills and experience in helping speakers to achieve their desired goal.

I don't help everyone and neither do I concentrate on 'presentation skills'. Anyone can do that. In fact, if you really want to know who the best people are to learn presentation skills, go to an acting school or seek mentorship from a successful theatre actor or impresario (but not television acting as that is a different dynamic unless you want to do your own dvd's) These people have to work and read the audience, just like a speaker and they really can help you improve your presentation skills.

It is also very easy to give money to many so called 'presentation trainers' and get very little in return. I have come across many who only cover basic information which you can get in any good book. I have listened to many speakers teaching other speakers how to follow in their footsteps and become good like them, but when you closely examine who their main clients are, you quickly see that it tends to be only speakers and budding speakers rather than actual corporate clients.

There are a great number of people ready to take your money out there and claim themselves as gurus in areas they have no business in and the problem is, that the more they shout the more people believe them. However, these people also eventually get found out and then disappear into obscurity just as quickly as they arose!

If you want to save money, decide what skills you actually want, work out what you need to do in order to get to your desired goal and then find people who will help/train/mentor/coach you in one or more of those areas. When deciding on a trainer, look to who their audience is and consider are you that person? Look at their results and what the people who have been trained are doing with their newly learned skills. Is this the outcome you need? for example... if you are having difficulty getting your voice to reach the back of the room or you are suffering from soar throat after each presentation, then you may actually require 'singing lessons' rather than a voice coach or presentation trainer.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings. I will now quietly sit on the sidelines again.

Good luck at toastmasters. They are a helpful beginning group.

Cindy

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