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me4you | | What's a Numismatic Coin ...and Why You Should NOT Buy Them!
The following article first appeared in the July, 1996 Moneychanger. I am
reprinting it now because over and over coin dealers keep repeating the same
false claims which this article disproves. These include:
1. "Numismatic" coins are exempt from government seizure by law. Totally
false - no basis in statute or regulation.
2. Customer purchases of bullion gold coins must be reported to the government,
but numismatic coins don't have to be reported. Totally false - no report is
required when you buy gold, regardless whether it is bullion or numismatic.
Only sales of certain gold and silver items must be reported, and then only when
they exceed certain quantities.
3. Coins minted before 1934 are exempt from government seizure. Totally false
- no basis in statute or regulation.
4. United States $20 gold pieces minted before 1934 are exempt from government
gold seizure. Totally false - no basis in statute or regulation. In fact, it
was mainly these coins which the government seized in 1933.
5. The law defines "numismatic coins" as those having a premium of 15%
or more over their gold content. Totally false - no basis in statute or
regulation.
A regulation was proposed in 1984, but never adopted.
6. The law defines United States $20 gold pieces as "numismatic" coins.
Totally false - no basis in statute or regulation.
Let the buyer beware! You should buy what is best for you, not what is best for
some coin dealer. In emergencies (such as Y2K), all values tend to sink to
their
lowest common denominator. With gold and silver coins, that means their
precious metal content. Premiums, especially numismatic premiums that depend on
stable markets & widespread prosperity, cannot survive that sort of pressure.
Why spend money to buy premium that does not bring you any benefit? If you have
numismatic coins, act now, while you can, to convert that numismatic premium
into more gold and silver by swapping your numismatic coins for bullion coins.
Call, fax, or e-mail us a list of your coins and we will calculate exactly how
much gain in ounces of gold or silver that swap would net you. - F. Sanders
Collecting coins can be a hobby both fascinating and rewarding. In the past 25
years, investors have discovered the exotic world of numismatics and jumped in
with big bucks. Riding the wave of mythical profits in numismatic coins,
dealers in the '70s set up boiler rooms where salesmen armed with WATS lines
pushed quasi-numismatic coins like US silver dollars or $20 gold pieces. I say
"quasi"-numismatic because so many of these exist that they aren't truly "rare"
coins,
although they carry big premiums over their gold or silver value, and they can
dance and jump when the gold bull is raging.
The problem is, gold and silver dealers keep on convincing people to buy the
more expensive US $20 gold pieces on the basis that they are "numismatic" coins.
What difference does that make? When gold was confiscated in 1934, they say,
"numismatic" coins were exempted.
I don't find that logic convincing. The exemption in 1933 was very vague:
"gold coins having a recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual
coins" (Presidential Proclamation of 4/5/1933). Worse yet, our government
tyrants are notoriously arbitrary. If they confiscate gold a second time, why
would you expect them to be consistent? Besides, who will turn in his gold if
his family's safety depends on it? Besides, in 1933 US $20s comprised the
largest part of banks' gold reserves, and most assuredly were not exempted from
seizure.
WHAT ABOUT DEFINITIONS?
But here's a new twist on things. In the past 15 years dealers have been
hammering out regulations with IRS about the definition of "numismatic" coins.
Many dealers aver that some government regulation defines a "numismatic coin"
as one that costs more than 15% over its gold or silver value. (We'll examine
this claim more closely in a moment.) Relying on that definition, gold and
silver
dealers urge you to buy US $20s, which sell at far more than a 15% premium.
But so far, nobody has noticed this other, larger loophole:
The Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985 (Public Law 99-185 of Dec. 17, 1985, 99
Statutes At Large 1177, 31 USC 5101, 5111, 5112) provided for minting the
American Eagle ounce, half ounce, quarter ounce, and tenth ounce gold coins.
Section 2(3) provides, "For purposes of section 5132(a)(1) of [Title 31], all
coins minted under this subsection shall be considered to be numismatic items."
The Liberty Coin Act of July 9, 1985 (Public Law 99-61 of 7/9/85, 99 Stat. 115,
31 USC 5112) authorized the one ounce silver coin commonly called the Silver
American Eagle. At section 202(g) it contains identical language.
By statutory definition then, the American Eagle gold coins and the silver
American Eagles are "numismatic" coins. (31 USC Section 5132(a)(1) requires the
Secretary of the Treasury to apply proceeds from selling "numismatic"
items to cost of making them.)
Here's another kicker. I nearly wore out a law school librarian trying to find
the regulation that defines a numismatic coin as one that sells for more than
15%
over its bullion value, but we couldn't find it. Thanks to the Industry Council
for Tangible Assets (ICTA), I found it in a proposed regulation 26 CFR 1.6045-1
on page 647-648 of the Federal Register, Vol. 49, No. 3, 1/5/1984. But that
proposed regulation was never adopted, and the current 26 CFR 1.6045-1 contains
none of that language. I couldn't find it in any IRS letter rulings or other
decisions, either. If it exists, neither the librarian nor I could find it.
[Within the month of July 1998 one customer told me that a dealer had faxed him
a copy of the proposed regulation claiming that his company's corporate attorney
said it was current law! When the customer asked for a letter from the attorney
stating that, the salesman said that wouldn't be possible. -- FS]
What's the bottom line? Contrary to what most gold and silver dealers think,
US $20 gold pieces and silver dollars do not qualify as "numismatic" coins.
However, if the federal government intends to confiscate gold, any "exemption"
for "numismatic" coins has to include the American Eagle gold and silver
coins. After all, not just a regulation but a statute specifically defines them
as "numismatic." I wonder if dealers who keep urging customers to buy
the higher priced US $20s "because their higher premium qualifies them as
numismatic coins" have thought of this?
BIG BROTHER WANTS TO KNOW
Building its grid of government control, the IRS in the 1980s began to introduce
(1) information reporting ("broker reporting") and
(2) cash transaction reporting requirements ("cash reporting").
Broker reporting applied to a wide number of transactions, but those that
concern
us are "commodities." That included any personal property for which the
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has approved trading in futures
contracts, among others, gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and US 90% silver
coins.
Don't let this confuse you. Sales to customers aren't reported, only certain
purchases from customers. I repeat, I haven't found any requirement in the
law that anyone must report precious metals sales to customers per se.
Specifically, according to Revenue Procedure 92-103, dealers need only report
purchases from customers which could satisfy a futures contract. That includes
1) lots of 25 or more (but not fewer) Krugerrands, Maple Leaves, or Mexican
Onzas,
2) kilo gold bars,
3) 100 ounce gold bars,
4) 1,000 oz. silver bars,
5) $5,000.00 face value (five bag lots, not five thousand bucks worth!) of US
90% silver coin,
6) 50 oz. of platinum, or
7) 100 oz. of palladium.
After fighting with gold and silver dealers through the 1980s the final IRS
broker
reporting regulation (26 CFR 1.6045-1) didn't include anything about numismatic
coins.
Now it seems that if the government intends to confiscate gold, any "exemption"
for numismatic coins has to include the American Eagle gold and silver coins.
After all, not just a regulation but a statute specifically defines them as
"numismatic." I wonder if dealers who keep urging customers to buy the higher
priced US $20s "because their higher premium qualifies them as numismatic coins"
have thought of this?
CASH REPORTING QUIRK
Cash reporting, as opposed to broker reporting, is a hog of a different color.
Cash reporting requires certain entities to report receiving "cash" in
amounts greater than F$10,000 (or F$3,000 in some circumstances). For this
purpose, the government isn't interested whether you are buying precious metals
or fertilizer, only that you plunked down "cash".
The cash reporting requirements of 26 United States Code 6050-I supposedly have
companion regulations at 26 CFR Part 1, Section 6050-I-1(c)(7)(i). But note
that the word "cash" has a special definition in this law. In a December 30,
1993 letter, the IRS Assistant Chief Counsel for Income Tax & Accounting Vincent
Cardella wrote to the Industry Council for Tangible Assets (ICTA) as follows:
Section 1.6050I-1(c)(1) of the Treasury Regulations defines the term "cash,"
in part, to include the coin and currency of the United States or of any other
country, which circulate in and are customarily used and accepted as money in
the country in which issued. The term `cash' does not include [sic] bullion
coins, such as gold bullion coins issued under the Gold Bullion Act of 1965
[sic], 99 Stat, 1117 [sic], nor does it include commemorative coins, such as
coins issued under the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Commemorative Coin Act, 99
Stat. 113 (1985) [The American Liberty Coin Act].
But gold and silver American Eagles are legal tender. Crazy as it sounds, this
means that you could walk into a Mercedes dealership, plunk down 201 American
Eagle gold coins with a face value of $10,050 and a paper money value of
F$80,400, and it wouldn't be a reportable transaction. (Tax Exempt Organizations
- Take strong note - Tom OBrien, Publisher)
Wait, kids, don't try this at home. Repeat: even though the IRS Assistant
Chief Counsel says so, don't rely on it. But it certainly appears that there
is a hole in the cash transaction reporting laws big enough to drive a 747 Jumbo
Jet through.
The simple way to avoid (not evade) cash reporting is to use American Eagle
gold coins & silver American Eagles in everyday transactions. (Check with
Merchants if they will accept American Eagle Gold or Silver coins - You will be
surorised how many will. Especially small Mom & Po stores- Tom OBrien,
Publisher)
Crazier still, since Customs is a part of Treasury, do you suppose that American
Eagle gold coins are exempt from reporting as cash when you leave the country?
Of course it's crazy, but it's the government, shooting themselves in the
toe. They hate gold & silver, and just because they want to discourage people
from using it, they write it out of their regulations, but only succeed in
making
gold and silver more private than their phony paper money.
-- Franklin Sanders
Special thanks to the Industry Council for Tangible Assets, the trade
association
for gold and silver dealers for help researching this article. ICTA has done a
great job over the years fighting off Big Brother, and every precious metals
dealer ought to join and support them. ICTA, Box 1365, Severna Park, Maryland
21146-8365.
All rights reserved,©1998-2006 Franklin Sanders & The Moneychanger
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