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May 21, 2007 2:38 amThis week's featured businesses#

Althea Garner

For the next few weeks, we will be featuring a few Middletown businesses as a prelude to the Middletown Days Parade.

Feel free to go to http://www.shopmiddletown.com/frmMerchantFind.aspx to learn more about these companies. Why not give them a call and tell them that you saw their business on Ryze - Project Middletown!


1st John 3:18
Marion Reed
Nonprofit Christian Charity

AAA Computers
Tony Lovisone
Housecalls, Repair, Spyware Removal, Networking, Data Recovery, Tech Support

Acme Foundation
Pat Meyer
Help to seniors & disabled for their seriously ill cats & dogs

Aero Airport Shuttle and Charter Service
Jeff or Michelle Tennison
Airport shuttle / Charter service / Transportation

Astro Events/Jump
Michelle or John Forney
Themed jump houses, concessions & game rentals. Backyard to Corp. events.

AtH Computers
Derek Hall
AtH Computers helps YOU make the most of your computer systems.

Avilla Heating & Air Conditioning
Sean Avilla

Back to Nature
Colleen Ferris
Spa

Backyard Garden Oasis
Greta Zeit
A Romantic Wine Country Bed and Breakfast

BeautiControl
Michele Gillies
Total Skin Wellness



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ALTHEA GARNER (Star Real Estate)
Realtor
http://www.altheagarner.com
http://www.OCstaarz.com


Search over 38,000 homes at my web site: http://www.OCSTAARZ.COM
___________________________________________


Remember... I am NEVER too busy for your referrals!

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May 21, 2007 3:08 amre: This week's featured businesses#

Scott Wolpow
There are at least two computer techs in Middletown. Lamar, enlist them to help set-up all the tech needs at your fair. They can help you teach everyone about the Internet. For them it is win/win. They can get more business for themselves.

Scott Wolpow
http://www.publiccto.com
http://www.myfilm.com a site for filmmakers
http://www.discountjewelry.com Use Promo ryze to save even more

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May 21, 2007 12:31 pmre: re: This week's featured businesses#

Althea Garner
Scott,

As Lamar pointed out to me, one of these companies (owned by Derek Hall) is in Cobb (not Middletown) but is a member of MABA. The other one has moved from the area.

Still, Derek does what he can to assist. I have met Derek and value his expertise.


:)
ALTHEA GARNER (Star Real Estate)
Business Networking Expert
http://www.altheagarner.com
http://www.OCstaarz.com


Search over 38,000 homes at my web site: http://www.OCSTAARZ.COM
___________________________________________


Remember... I am NEVER too busy for your referrals!

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May 21, 2007 1:30 pmre: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Scott Wolpow
Where is Cobb? Why are they members if they are not in Middletown? Do they serve Middletown?

Scott Wolpow
http://www.publiccto.com
http://www.myfilm.com a site for filmmakers
http://www.discountjewelry.com Use Promo ryze to save even more

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May 22, 2007 4:05 amre: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Althea Garner


Scott,

The towns around the Middletown area are very close in proximity and therefore it is not surprising that Cobb business are members of MABA.

Any more surprising that as a resident of Fountain Valley, working in Huntington Beach, I am a member of Long Beach Chamber, Irvine Chamber and Tustin Chamber (these cities range from 6 miles away to 26 miles away).

If I were a resident of Middletown, I would probably be a member of MABA and the Chambers of Santa Rosa and Napa.



:)
ALTHEA GARNER (Star Real Estate)
Realtor
http://www.altheagarner.com
http://www.OCstaarz.com


Search over 38,000 homes at my web site: http://www.OCSTAARZ.COM
___________________________________________


Remember... I am NEVER too busy for your referrals!

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May 22, 2007 6:58 amre: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Lamar Morgan 954-603-7901
Scott,

The Cobb area has formed its own merchants association. I am not sure what it calls itself. But, from what I understand, it functions in a similar fashion to the Middletown Area Business Association. What is amazing to me is that within one county we have several Chamber of Commerce-like organizations - the Clearlake Chamber of Commerce, the Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce, plus MABA and the Cobb group. For all I know, there may still be other Chamber groups in the county. I really do not know for sure how many such groups there are. You do know there is a big difference between a Chamber of Commerce and an organization like MABA. A Chamber gets state funds. The person operating as its executive director is a paid position. Contrast that to an organization like MABA. Everyone here is a volunteer and no state funds come our way. Consequently, there are some MABA members who think Middletown would be better off if it were to have its own Chamber of Commerce and simply disband MABA in favor of the Chamber. Then there are those that think all local chambers and business associations should disband in favor of the one big Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce. I think some people equate the biggest organization with being the best. Well, I am not convinced that is true.



Lamar Morgan
CDMM
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Attract more customers!

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May 22, 2007 5:24 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Althea Garner


Since Middletown is unincorporated, can it have it's own Chamber?

If it were up to me, I would opt for a combined association, rather than creating a division between small towns.

You're right - bigger isn't necessarily better, but if people are joining an organization, irrespective of it's name, one would think that they would be active members and participate.

I don't believe that there is a Chamber that has 100% attendance or 100% participation, but the more active members an organization has, the more prosperous it is and the active members make up for the 'slackers'.

In MABA's case, I don't believe that there are enough active members to make it truly viable without those members from other towns.

Just my .02c


:)



ALTHEA GARNER ... (Star Real Estate)
http://www.altheagarner.com
Remember... I am NEVER too busy for your referrals!

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May 23, 2007 2:37 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Lamar Morgan 954-603-7901

Althea,

For the record, we have MABA members who are involved with the Clearlake and Lakeport Chamber of Commerce. Why? Because they want the exposure. The Lakeport Chamber can offer more than either MABA, Clearlake or Cobb for serveral reasons:

1) Paid employees as opposed to volunteers.

2) State funded. (While the Clearlake Chamber must also be state funded, I believe its resources are small compared to Lakeport, which is the county seat.)

3) Lakeport being a "regional" Chamber of Commerce has by far the largest membership and therefore likely the most active members in overall numbers.

Supposedly, one of my MABA associates has totall researched this issue about an incorporated area having a Chamber of Commerce and she says it is NOT a problem. I personally do not if that is accurate. But, let's assume she is correct. Should Middletown have its own Chamber of Commerce? And, if we should, what should become of MABA? Should the two co-exits? Or, should MABA disband and the members of MABA join the new Middletown Chamber of Commerce? Some folks at last Thursday's mixer were telling me they though MABA should be dissolved in favor of a Chamber of Commerce.

I personally would hate to see MABA simply disappear. What I am wondering is if MABA could possibly morph in some way into the Middletown Chamber of Commerce? Why should MABA throw away everything it has worked hard to build? Why not use MABA assets - like its web site and loyal members - to build a new foundation for a Chamber of Commerce? After all, we would have the added benefit of state funds? However, it is what we might lose in the process that concerns me. Right now, MABA members have a say-so in what MABA does and how it does it. There is a great deal of freedom in that regard. Do Chamber members have such freedom or are they simply TOLD what is on the agenda? I am certain the cost for being a Chamber member is a great deal more than being a member of MABA. So, the difference in cost may turn a lot of people off. For example, people who are now members of all all four organizations, may not want to continue with MABA as the Middletown Chamber of Commerce is the dues significantly increase.

Lamar Morgan
Network Moderator

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May 23, 2007 2:45 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Scott Wolpow
Lamar,
By your own admission the MABA does not do much.
Get a Chamber going.
We have a Forest Hills Chamber which is quite small. Our street fairs only attract 40,000 people. The Queens Chamber used to have a fair at Flushing Meadow Park [Hoem to two worlds Fairs, Shea Stadium and the US Tennis Open]. That fair used to attract over 500,000.
There are many other Chambers in Queens, some are quite small, Some are BID [Business Improvement Districts].



Scott Wolpow
http://www.publiccto.com
http://www.myfilm.com a site for filmmakers
http://www.discountjewelry.com Use Promo ryze to save even more

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May 23, 2007 5:43 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Althea Garner

No, Scott, it won't work in Middletown!

Your street fairs ONLY attract 40,000 people - Middletown has a total population of 1,100!

Middletown does not have enough population to sustain a Chamber of Commerce and their best bet would be to consolidate the Chambers into a tri-area or quad-area Chamber, which incorporates all town/cities into ONE Chamber.

I agree with Lamar that if this were to happen, existing MABA members might be put out at losing their membership dues (or benefit thereof) and yes, Chamber membership will cost more.

Why not make all MABA members automatic members of the new Chamber for a period of one year?

There is safety in numbers and I believe that having a consolidated Chamber would give far more credence and more opportunity and exposure to all members.


:)
ALTHEA GARNER (Star Real Estate)
Realtor
http://www.altheagarner.com
http://www.OCstaarz.com


Search over 38,000 homes at my web site: http://www.OCSTAARZ.COM
___________________________________________


Remember... I am NEVER too busy for your referrals!


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May 23, 2007 8:14 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Lamar Morgan 954-603-7901

Okay, a Chamber of Commerce is state-funded. It has employees. But, who decides what the Chamber does? Do the members decide or does the state, which provides monetary funds, decide? Where does the agenda come from?

Speaking of money, since the state is providing funds and the Chamber is charging for membership, why is it that membership in a Chamber of Commerce should cost its members MORE money than say, MABA, when it has more funds from the outset?

Lamar Morgan
Network Moderator

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May 23, 2007 10:16 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Scott Wolpow
Wow we have more apartments than that in our complex.


Scott Wolpow
http://www.publiccto.com
http://www.myfilm.com a site for filmmakers
http://www.discountjewelry.com Use Promo ryze to save even more

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May 23, 2007 11:57 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Kathleen Smart
I am surprised at the remark about your chambers of commerce being Government funded. The chambers that I am familiar with are all Not for Profit and self funded by the memberships, sponsorships and programs they run. You might want to check into that.

Kathleen

Kathleen R. Smart, CEO SmarterIdeas Inc.
Living Life by Design not Default
http://www.smarterideas.com
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May 23, 2007 2:29 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Lamar Morgan 954-603-7901

Kathleen,

I am not the person who looked into this matter. But, think about it. All states have a Chamber of Commerce. Each executive director is a paid position. In the case of the Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce, even the executive director has paid employees. Where does the money come from to pay for the office, employees and scheduled activities? In Atlanta, you have a both a Chamber of Commerce and a Convention and Business Center. Now, both have a membership base. But, do you think both are run on membership money alone and still paying employee salaries?

It was the Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce that helped to start an economic development nonprofit organization called Mt. Konocti Facilitation. An volunteer executive board was put in place. An enterprise facilitator was hired. Fund-raising was done. But, the fund-raisers were not successful. So, the one hired employee was fired. MKF is still $50,000 in debt to the Sirolli Institute, which is the parent organization to MKF. I do believe all Chamber of Commerce organization operate in a similar fashion. I will bet their bylaws are identical on the state level. Unlike most membership-run nonprofit organizations I have a feeling that the Chamber of Commerce dictates the rules and activities to the membership - not the other way around. I have a feeling the Chamber of Commerce is run like a business - not a social club. But, I must confess I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Chamber of Commerce.

Lamar Morgan
Network Moderator

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May 23, 2007 2:43 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: This week's featured businesses#

Kathleen Smart
Yes, there is a budget and it is all funded by programs and memberships. It is always an assumption that Chambers get State money and in this case that is simply not true. I don't know about other states etc. but I am guessing it would the same.

Kathleen

Kathleen R. Smart, CEO SmarterIdeas Inc.
Living Life by Design not Default
http://www.smarterideas.com
http://www.smarterideas.com/radio

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