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Sep 01, 2007 10:19 amArt photography#

Porus Vazifdar
Having collected paintings for a few years and sculpture for even less and having seen the rise in their popularity, I wonder whether photography could be the sequel to the story?

Is photography more than just a preserver of history? Most photographers and photography in general would have played second fiddle to or been service providers to other professions viz journalism, designing and architecture. Photographers whose names come to mind viz. Raja Deen Dayal, Homai Vyarawalla, Atmaram(?) Bhende are all old timers. Where is the new breed? Is it that technology is so well advanced that photography is no longer an art?

While these questions certainly need answers, the following questions (in random order) are more relevant to photography as an art form:
Who are the well known Indian art photographers.
How are prices determined for photographs?
What are the demographics and of collectors and what drives them to collect photos.?
Where is photography in the world of art?
Do collectible or art photographs have a particular size?
Are older photos more valuable than recent ones?
Are touched up photos closer to ‘art’?

We will need to answer a lot more questions than these to understand the place of photography in the art world.

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Sep 01, 2007 11:07 amre: Art photography#

Porus Vazifdar
USD2.2mn for a photo? See this link...

http://artmarketinsider.com/2006/08/dumbo-pricing-for-jumbo-picture/

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Sep 01, 2007 12:12 pmre: re: Art photography#

Porus Vazifdar
Another link. This one answers some questions...

http://www.culturekiosque.com/art/artmrkt/photography_market.html

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Sep 01, 2007 12:43 pmre: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Hello!
Who are the well known Indian art photographers?
* I have seen & enjoyed remarkable photographs of Jyoti Bhatt, Akbar Padamsee, and Paresh Maity.

* Others include Riyas Komu, Amita Dube, Vivian Sundram, Rajeev Lochan and Shibu Arakkal(is doing relatively well from the start of his career, son of Yusuf Arakkal).

* Occasionally artists too experiment like Laxman Aelay, Fawad Tamkanat, DLN Reddy, and Rammana Reddy.

Few photos are uploaded for those who have never seen them!
http://picasaweb.google.com/affordindianart/IndianContemporaryPhotography

How are prices determined for photographs?
* These reflect on the edition size again similar to limited edition, very often the edition size is less than 10 and some are single edition prints of one size.

What are the demographics and of collectors and what drives them to collect photos?
* Usually corporates go for these since they are easier to handle and also to afford them.

Where is photography in the world of art?
* Little ahead of infant stage.........

Do collectible or art photographs have a particular size?
* Nope (some prints are customized to your order)

Are older photos more valuable than recent ones?
* Depends on the subject > geographic representation keep changing and photography was meant to document these changes so an old photograph of 'Mumbai's Marine drive scene' without clutter would be more valuable than recent photo of visual pollution i would say.....

Are touched up photos closer to ‘art’?
* This will be a big discussion to follow.....

A lot of young people are experimenting with pure "tearing up of photos and creating Art" so from my side i wish to make no comments..........

I am also learning and wish to learn more and more .......

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html

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Sep 01, 2007 12:50 pmre: Art photography#

Arvind Vijaymohan
hi porus,

checking in after a while. am a bit rushed now but am putting down some thoughts -

photography has tremendous potential - landscapes and nature photography (international ex. - ansel adams) are all instantly accepted by viewers across the board. Portraitures and human studies may take a longer time to find an eye's favour. Internationally, names like annie leibowitz, richard avedon, helmut newton, herb ritts and many others have made a huge name in portraits.

in the indian context, we had a fantastic showing of some great images at the recently concluded Arles exposition. this was curated by devika daulet-singh and showed some very powerful work by anay mann, siya singh, dayanita singh, bharat sikka. there was a rare body of phenomenal vintage images taken by umrao singh shergil (amrita's father) on view as well.

you mention a line about photography being the preserver of history - i believe every important work of art plays that role. when viewing works from 2007 in 2077, i hope there is a clear suggestion/insight into where we stood at that time (our present). photography, journalistic or amateur, undoubtedly plays a role in capturing moments in time - done by a talented, practiced hand and eye, it is regarded as art.

trying to put some thoughts against your questions -

Who are the well known Indian art photographers.
dayanita singh, ketaki seth, raghu rai, ram rahman, prabuddha dasgupta, prabir purkayastha, pablo barthomolew...long list


How are prices determined for photographs?
like all other artforms, the standing of the artist and his importance makes a difference to the value of his work. photography is sold in editions (much like etchings/serigraphs) the general run should not exceed 8-12. the prices increase with the editions: ed. 1-3 for value x; ed. 4-6 for value xx and so on.


What are the demographics and of collectors and what drives them to collect photos.?
is a passion i guess like collectorship should be and goes without saying, will only find more numbers with time. photography was/still is not being treated as an artform in the true sense of the word. this will change and so will perceptions.


Do collectible or art photographs have a particular size?
the canvas size is generally variable though many prefer to show their works in a 2 by 3 / 3 by 4 canvas size - usable dimensions. but it does vary.

Are older photos more valuable than recent ones?
not necessarily. depends on the photographer and the series of work the image is from.

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Sep 04, 2007 6:18 amre: re: Art photography#

Nalini Malaviya
Since my knowledge of photography is ltd, this is a great thread to learn from.

Cheers
Nalini
http://indianartscene.blogspot.com/

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Sep 04, 2007 9:45 amre: re: re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Nalini,

I am in the same position....I always have been thinking photography has no secondary market whatsoever in India atleast!

I have seen some beautiful shows by Raghu Rai and Ashok Salian...

Y'day there was a Bollywood Photography show in Bombay by PNC, each photograph was from there own past and present films...priced between INR 100k to INR 150k each!

I would be happy for those who have exp and insights on this market come here and share with us, and enlighten us pls?!

Regards,
Mehul Patel
http://Mozomo.mobi (log on using your Cell Phone only!)
http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Sep 04, 2007 9:52 amre: re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Arvind and Umesh,

Both of you have shared some wonderful knowledge here on the topic, Thank you for the same...

Would you advice any of us to invest in Photgraphy as of now?!

OR

it's still in a collector / passion stage?!

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Sep 04, 2007 12:54 pmre: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Mehul
Each segment; like photography/sculpture/artist-painted furnitures/curios etc., offer good returns (also it would be delightful to own something that no one dares to) to those who take the plunge when the exposure and awareness is very limited and also when it has not caught the fancy of accumulators.

Once the accumulators start buying then the collectors would not be able to buy good ones but left to buy what ever is left over, which may not be that qualitative.

Umesh U V

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Sep 05, 2007 3:11 amre: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Wide Angle 2007 - A Photo Exhibition.

Venkatesh, Nishant, Anita and Shankar subramanian are holding this photo exhibition showcasing a collection of photographs that were captured during travel, besides showcasing works, they would also like to raise funds for Jagruthi - a Bangalore based voluntary organization working with children affected with AIDs. Pixetra has also extended their support to us.

The inauguration is on 7th of September at 5 PM at Karnataka Chitrakala Parishad, Kumarakrupa Road, Bangalore, and they are going to have interactive sessions with Anand Sharan and Dr. Manoj Sindagi on 8th and 9th of September, respectively.

Sep 7 2007 10:00AM
to
Sep 9 2007 4:00PM

For information on Wide Angle 2007, please visit. http://www.wideangle.in

cheers!

Umesh U V
http://affordindianart.blogspot.com/

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Sep 07, 2007 11:44 amre: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

ImageForte
Photography as an art form surely has great potential. I think we need to stop comparing it with painting and look at it as a creative vision of an individual professional.

In the US the twentieth century saw a concerted attempt by curators and gallery owners to promote fine art photography. Several new galleries solely dedicated to photography were opened.
The subjects ranged from portraits, travel, nudes, documentary to black and white photography.
The last decade saw numerous online forums selling fine art photography.

The Indian contemporary art market is seeing what I would call an ‘attempt’ at promoting and showcasing photography as an art form through both online and offline mediums (exhibitions, publications). This is clearly evident by the increase in the number of photography shows the capital has witnessed in the last year…

What we really need is a dedicated approach at promoting photography and a change in perception which I guess will only come with time. The dynamics of the Indian art market changed completely with the growth of art galleries as intermediaries between the artists and the collectors… At the moment among the sprouting number of art galleries, both old and new, only a few are open to photography exhibitions. I think with time this will change..

About a month ago we launched ImageForte, focused on promoting and showcasing fine art photography. The website showcases a carefully selected range of photographic prints for collectors, corporates and art enthusiasts.

Among the well known photographers in India are Raghu Rai, Rupinder Khullar, S.Paul, Dayanita Singh, S.Paul, Avinash Pasricha, Prabuddha Dasgupta many others….

Fine art photography prints are available in limited editions, generally ranging from 10 to 15 and some photographs are of single edition. It’s not mandatory that prices increase with the editions…

The size of prints varies. We are offering three sizes at the moment but we also customize depending on the order.

I don’t think older photos are more valuable than newer ones. The link about the USD 2.2 m photograph is a case in point!

Demographics - At the moment corporates and individual buyers.


Anisha Singh
Consultant
ImageForte
www.imageforte.com

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Sep 26, 2007 3:58 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Tasveer- is an organization founded by Shalini Gupta, Abhishek Poddar & Naveen Kishore. It is devoted to promoting photography as art and to the art of photography. It is an attempt at coming to grips with the process of images being made by both contemporary Indian photographers as well as photographers from elsewhere, who are interested in India. The idea is to exhibit, buy and sell photography, and to document and publish it as well.

Tasveer - as an organization hopes to work with the photographers and evolve with them. Both in our thinking and in our ability to show case their works. Tasveer's opening season had shows by Raghu Rai, Ryan Lobo, Shahid Datawala, Saibal Das & Fawzan Hussain. Its second season will have shows by Annu Matthew, Christopher Taylor, Tim Hall, Jasmeen Pathija & Dave Trattle.

Tasveer- encourages the buying and selling of photographs as collector's items, as art, as fragments of "captive" time, of memory. To be cherished. Shared with others. Revisited -- both privately and publicly, again and again.

*Tasveer*- archives, documents, publishes works of Indian &
international photography and maintains an evolving, growing digital archive of photographic images through its website

http://www.tasveerarts.com

and at its galleries in New Delhi, Bombay, Kolkata and Bangalore.

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://affordindianart.blogspot.com

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Oct 16, 2007 3:26 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Hi!
Please check out the link of an article in ET:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/ET_Cetera/More_lensmen_now_zoom_in__on_fine_arts/articleshow/2458884.cms

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://affordindianart.blogspot.com

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Jan 14, 2008 3:49 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Hi!
One more article in TOI:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Deep_Focus/Flash_Photos_make_great_investments/articleshow/2695408.cms

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html

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Jan 14, 2008 6:16 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

Sonali Engineer
hey this is all so wonderful.

i know of the photographers guild who does regular shows at the jehangir art gallery.

also the market internationally is awesome. Walter on our forum is selling limited edition photographs at usd 1000 K etc.. Walter y dont you give us some information on the international scenario?

what Umesh and Arvind have given in terms of information is wonderful. thank you i enjoyed reading every bit of it.

sonali

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Jan 14, 2008 10:31 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

Mohini Manchanda
Learning from all of you is certainly a good learning experience.
Mohini M

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Jan 15, 2008 3:34 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Hi!
One more article in ExpressIndia:
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/All-the-right-clicks/261205/

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html

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Feb 28, 2008 8:54 am Art photography - A name list pls#

Mehul Patel
After all the wonderful discussion and inputs from all of you wonderful members can we now work on a Mater list of Indian Photography worth collecting, investing pls?


Jyoti Bhatt

Akbar Padamsee

Paresh Maity

Riyas Komu

Sanjeev Khandekar

Amita Dube

Vivian Sundram

Rajeev Lochan

Shibu Arakkal

Laxman Aelay

Fawad Tamkanat

DLN Reddy

Rammana Reddy

Ashok Salian

Venkatesh

Nishant

Anita

Shankar subramanian

Rupinder Khullar

S.Paul

Dayanita Singh

Avinash Pasricha

Prabuddha Dasgupta

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Feb 28, 2008 11:31 amre: Art photography#

Prshant Lahoti
There is no running away from the fact that photography as an form of art is big time investment aboard and is fast catching up in India too. Bodhi did three show of photographs last year which evoked very good responce from investors.

Photographs & Albums of Great masters of photography like Raja Deendayal, Hooper, Samuel Bourne or Bourne and Sheppard command very good prices in auctions all over the world.

Learnt a lot from this post on contemporary fine art photography.

My gallery is doing a show of about 8 photographers from Hyderabad next month, will keep you all posted.

Prshant Lahoti
www.kalakriti.in

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Feb 29, 2008 3:57 amre: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Hi once again!

Nice Link

http://www.grosvenorgallery.com/exhibit_view.asp?id=1300

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html



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Feb 29, 2008 4:43 pm re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Prashant do keep us posted for sure...

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Feb 29, 2008 4:45 pmre: re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
http://www.vadehraart.com/CurrentExhibitionDetails.aspx?Exhibition_ID=81

Click ! Contemporary Photography in India

Group Show
1 - 29 March, 2008
Contemporary Photography in India

Click ! Contemporary Photography in India

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Mar 01, 2008 6:35 amAge of Photography#

Mehul Patel
Age of Photography

From the ‘Concerns’ Desk ... March 2008


http://www.artconcerns.com/html/fromConcernsDesk.htm

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Mar 01, 2008 4:43 pmre: Age of Photography#

Porus Vazifdar
See the latest photography show at Priyasri Art Gallery at Worli, Mumbai.

http://www.priyasriartgallery.com/current.html

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Mar 01, 2008 7:48 pmre: re: Age of Photography#

Mehul Patel
Some of the works are Fantastic.

How are the prices for Hema, Sanjeev & Riyas's works?

Porus did u go for the show?

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 02, 2008 9:07 amre: re: re: Age of Photography#

Porus Vazifdar
Prices may be inquired with the gallery. I am yet to visit the show. However, have seen all works in the e catalogue.

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Mar 05, 2008 4:21 pmPushpamala N: Age of Photography#

Mehul Patel
A good friend of Europe suggests

Pushpamala N for Photography

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/artists/pushpamala_n.htm

Can anyone throw some light on the same?

Do you liek what you see?

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Mar 06, 2008 7:49 amre: Pushpamala N: Age of Photography#

Mehul Patel
Any Feedback?

Pushpamala N for Photography

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 06, 2008 8:13 amre: re: Pushpamala N: Age of Photography#

U V Umesh
Mehul
Pushpamala is known abroad for her installations and new media works, I somehow do not have any fancy to these kind of photographs by any artist for that matter. Some people go purely by the hot names disregardful whether they look good on the walls or not.

Cheers!
Umesh U V
Art Consultant

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Mar 12, 2008 3:13 pmre: re: re: Pushpamala N: Age of Photography#

Mehul Patel
Umesh thanks

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 12, 2008 3:15 pmHot List- Photography#

Mehul Patel
Some New names suggested by very trusted and respectable people good to collect in photography space

Fazal Sheikh

Dayanita Singh

Raghu Rai

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 12, 2008 8:46 pmre: Pushpamala N: Age of Photography#

Anilkumar Bhimjiyani
Hi Mehul,
Funny you should mention her.I had seen her work on the Saatchi website just over a week ago.

Not my type of work.

Cheers

Anil

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Mar 12, 2008 8:47 pmre: Hot List- Photography#

Anilkumar Bhimjiyani
I give my vote for Dayant Singh,and add one more name,
Sunil Gupta

Best regards

Anil

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Mar 13, 2008 7:54 amre: re: Hot List- Photography#

Mehul Patel
Anil thanks. Here are links for the photgraphers in discussion I hope they are correct!


Sunil Gupta

http://www.sunilgupta.net/

http://www.artministry.co.uk/services/delta_cms/content/showcontent.aspx?GroupID=103&GroupPageID=554

Fazal Sheikh (He is a Rockstar his work is fantastic!)

http://www.fazalsheikh.org/

Dayanita Singh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayanita_Singh

http://www.frithstreetgallery.com/singh.html

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://www.IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated Portal

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Mar 14, 2008 8:47 amre: re: re: Hot List- Photography#

Porus Vazifdar
Photography as an art form has generated a lot of discussion and interest on this thread. But where do we stand today and what does the next 3 yr period portend for art photography in the world and in India? Who has the pulse of this form/market?

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Mar 15, 2008 12:17 pmre: re: re: re: Hot List- Photography#

Mehul Patel
I had some interesting discussions with Tara Lal of C & L and I have invited her to the Network as galleries like.

Chatterjee & Lal and Mirchandani & Steinruecke have enough experience in showing Photgraphy by some great Artists.

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 22, 2008 6:10 amWelcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Mehul Patel
Friends,

We have Matthieu Foss here on our network a very important name in the photography / contemporary photography space.

http://www.matthieufossgallery.com/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Mar 27, 2008 3:03 amre: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Nalini Malaviya
Hellmuth Conz's show previews today in B'lore,

http://indianartscene.blogspot.com/2008/03/art-buzz-bangalore-hellmuth-conz.html

Cheers
Nalini
http://indianartscene.blogspot.com/

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Mar 29, 2008 6:56 pmre: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Mehul Patel
One more Important name:

http://www.subhankarbanerjee.org/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Apr 15, 2008 4:49 amre: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

anshoo bajaj
Hi all
Check out Karan Khannas art photography up for auction at Sothebies on May 2,--lot no 93.
Regs--Anshoo.

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Apr 15, 2008 8:04 amre: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Mehul Patel
Anshoo,

You are right. Nice colorful rickshaws here is the link:

http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?live_lot_id=93&go.x=0&go.y=0&sale_number=L08221

I personally don't know much abt Karan Khanna but I like the image.

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Apr 15, 2008 9:03 amre: re: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Gad EDERY
So who would you say is worth looking at ?

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Apr 15, 2008 1:37 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

anshoo bajaj
Hi all
Karan has been a prfessional ad/fashion/food photographer and is now in art photography.He is Delhi based and also son of painter Krishen Khanna.
Regs--Anshoo.

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Apr 26, 2008 1:26 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Sonali Engineer
hey,

for my Huesday April i am show casing the works from the Ranthamhore school of art - animal art/art for survival - these are beautiful watercolors of silk. along with these we are showcasing PHOTOGRAPHS of some top notch wildlife photographers - M D parashar (BBC award winner), Komala Varadan (Padmashree award winner + others), Achal Kumar.

all those in delhi interested in viewing the works are invited to attend the show - april 30th to may4th.

those who cannot make it can view it on www.huesday.com

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Jun 19, 2008 2:39 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

U V Umesh
Have a read at this:

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1171726&pageid=0

Cheers!

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/resale.html

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Jun 19, 2008 4:54 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Welcome Matthieu Foss to the Network- Photography#

Sonali Engineer
an artist Nalini introduced me to in Bangalore told me about this portal and boy am i impressed!!!!

chk it out people?!

http://tasveerarts.com/

also await indiatimes arts launch of a photography section!

sonali

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Jul 15, 2008 5:47 pmre: Art- Photography#

Mehul Patel
Umesh and Sonali,

both of you have posted grt links thanks a ton :)

Regards,
Mehul Patel
http://www.KIPL.Net - New Media Solutions
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Jul 15, 2008 7:41 pmRe: Art Photography#

Mehul Patel
Definitely worth looking:

http://www.battlespaceonline.org/

photographs from Iraq and Afghanistan 2003-2008

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Jul 16, 2008 1:26 amre: Re: Art Photography#

Anand Sharan
Thanks for the war photographs Mehul. I have great admiration for such photojournalists.
Anand Sharan

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Jul 16, 2008 8:33 amre: re: Re: Art Photography#

Mehul Patel
Anand,

You are welcome and I did love the photographs a lot! Also do chk:

two amazing young photographers!

http://www.oliviaarthur.com/

http://www.petervanagtmael.com/main.php

Peter is the guy who also curated the above Battlespace project along with 22 other International photographers.

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Jul 21, 2008 2:31 amre: both the links are really good...#

U V Umesh
One more article to read ....

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul202008/finearts2008071979781.asp

Umesh U V
Art Consultant
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html

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Jul 28, 2008 5:34 pmre: re: both the links are really good...#

Preety Kaur
whoever selling famous art photographers, pls contact, I might be interested, thanks Preety K. Singh

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Jul 30, 2008 12:48 pmArt Photography Thread#

Mehul Patel
Dear Preety,

Here are some wonderful links for you to purchase fabulous Indian Photographs

http://tasveerarts.com/

http://wonderwall.co.in/

http://www.photoink.net/

I have requested the founder of Wonder Wall who is a photographer and a curator himself Ajay Rajgarhia to join our network. He should be here soon.

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Jul 31, 2008 3:22 amre: Art Photography Thread#

Nalini Malaviya
In B'lore, one notices
- No. of photography shows have increased dramatically.
- Excellent quality works even from amateurs.
- Awareness increasing
- Lot of experimental work on display
- Prices have gone up
- Photojournalism catching up

Cheers
Nalini
http://indianartscene.blogspot.com/

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Jul 31, 2008 8:36 amre: re: Art Photography Thread#

Mehul Patel
I think this is great news for existing and upcoming Photographers. The market is expanding, There are people buying just as they like what they see, there are collectors who are keen to expand from Art and Sculptures and include Photographs in there collection.


Besides the three links below: Is anyone aware of any other firms which should be listed on this thread:

http://tasveerarts.com/

http://wonderwall.co.in/

http://www.photoink.net/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
http://www.KIPL.Net - New Media Solutions
http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Jul 31, 2008 2:41 pmre: re: re: Art Photography Thread#

Preety Kaur
Thanks Mehul, these links are helpful. I did study on older indian photographers, then my interest got developed in modern ones as well, I am building my own library on important photographers of India. Library is quite handy, when galleries and museums refer me.
Cheers !!
Preety

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Jul 31, 2008 7:45 pm: re: Art Photography Thread#

Mehul Patel
The List so far contributed by members on this thread:


Fazal Sheikh

Raghu Rai

Sunil Gupta

Pushpamala N

Shilpa Gupta

Jyoti Bhatt

Akbar Padamsee

Paresh Maity

Riyas Komu

Sanjeev Khandekar

Karan Khanna

Shahid Datawala

Amita Dube

Vivian Sundram

Rajeev Lochan

Shibu Arakkal

Laxman Aelay

Fawad Tamkanat

DLN Reddy

Rammana Reddy

Ashok Salian

Venkatesh

Nishant

Anita

Shankar subramanian

Rupinder Khullar

S.Paul

Dayanita Singh

Avinash Pasricha

Prabuddha Dasgupta

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Jul 31, 2008 7:54 pmre: : re: Art Photography Thread#

Mehul Patel
subhankar banerjee

http://www.subhankarbanerjee.org/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Aug 02, 2008 12:27 pmre: re: : re: Art Photography Thread#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Hi

I’m Ajay Rajgarhia, a photographer and curator and also run a online gallery dedicated to fine art photography. The website is www.wonderwall.co.in.

My website is ajayrajgarhia.com

I would like to give my opinion on some of the questions/issues raised here.

Yes, photography is a preserver of history, but that is one of the roles it plays, there are a lot of roles that photography plays:

Commercial.
Photo Journalism.
Fine Art Photography.

Although I am not one for definitions, as they are almost always restrictive, This is the Definition of Fine Art Photography as per Wikipedia.

"Fine art photography refers to photographs that are created to fulfill the creative vision of the artist. Fine art photography stands in contrast to photojournalism and commercial photography. Photojournalism is to promote an editorial point of view. Commercial photography's main focus being to sell a product or service.

The final creative reason for a fine art photograph is the photograph itself. It is not a means to another end except perhaps to please those besides the photographer who beholds it.

Fine art photography can be used to promote something. They are created most importantly to be true to the artist's vision of beauty. We can see this by looking at Ansel Adams' work of Yosemite and Yellowstone. Ansel is one of the least disputed fine art photographers of the 20th century and an avid promoter of conservation. He hoped to have these wonders protected. The photographs were still not created to raise awareness of anything. They were done simply to be true to his artistic vision. This is an example of how fine art photography that is created simply to be true to artistic vision can be used for effect."

(Disclaimer: This is not my opinion - its Wikipedias)

Internationally, photography is almost at par with painting as far as recognition as an art form is concerned. In India, it has also started happening now.

A lot of my buyers are art collectors, and are buying photographs, as they are very reasonably priced right now.

Who are the well known Indian art photographers?

That a long list – and cannot be answered without a certain bias – Dayanita Singh, Raghu Rai, S. Paul.
Then there is Sunil Gupta, Pradudha Dasgupta, Karan Khanna, Dinesh Khanna etc.

How are prices determined for photographs?

Like in painting, by photographer and size. Also by the no of editions and the edition no.

What are the demographics and of collectors and what drives them to collect photos.?

Most of my buyers are people in Metros under the 45-50 age group. Also Corporates, Hospitals and Hotels.

Where is photography in the world of art?

That is very difficult to answer, and I guess my opinion will be biased.

But, based on International trends, it can only gain importance and go up the ladder, specially since its in its infancy right now (in India).

Do collectible or art photographs have a particular size?

No. Most photographers have their own prefernces and many of them offer more than one size

Are older photos more valuable than recent ones?

No. It depends on the person behind the work.

Are touched up photos closer to ‘art’?

No.

Although photographs is a good investment, in my opinion it’s a long term investment – 3 to 5 years. As per the show ‘The Art of Investing’ on CNN-IBN, it should give a return of 500% in 3 years. The prices for photographs is quite expensive internationally, and galleries from abroad are picking up works of Indian photographers, as they are relatively ‘cheap’ right now. So, prices should reach international levels in a few years.

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Aug 04, 2008 7:26 amArt Photography Thread#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Just thought I give my two bit reg the photographers (for anyone who is interested :-))

I’m putting it in stock parlance – I hope that will be easier to understand.

All the people mentioned above are, without doubt, great.

But:
1. They are already blue chips – everyone knows who there are (even internationally) and that reflects in their price.

2. There are some painters on that list, who have got into photography and are cashing in on their name.

To seriously look at the market, apart from the abovementioned list, one may also want to look at emerging blue chips and mid caps.

This is because:

1. They have not been internationally recognized.

2. Unlike painters, photographers always had another source of income – commercial work. Once the market for art photography opened up, a lot of photographers started given this preference over commercial work. But, since the market is at its infancy, to mention a certain level of income (which commercial work ensured), they are keeping their prices reasonable (actually under pricing themselves, in my opinion, but then, what would I know) so they can sell regularly.

I am not going to name people, as my opinion is going to sound biased. But I would suggest you decide for yourself by looking at a photographers body of work – it is all available on the net – if there is any specific persons work you are looking for and can’t find it, pls let me know and I will try and point you in the right direction. You can contact me at ajay@wonderwall.co.in.

Also, see how international the work looks to you – the more international it is, the better the chance of it getting pickup by galleries abroad – and honestly, in photography, that’s where the money is right now.

Hope that helps.

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Aug 04, 2008 9:31 amre: Art Photography Thread#

Mehul Patel
Ajay,

thanks for providing a detail feedback here I am confident this will help us all.

Regards,
Mehul Patel
http://www.KIPL.Net - New Media Solutions
http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Aug 04, 2008 10:08 amre: Art Photography Thread#

Anand Sharan
Thanks for your very balanced view point.
Anand Sharan

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Aug 09, 2008 10:08 amArt Photography Thread#

Ajay Rajgarhia
An update

Aug 7th saw the opening of 4 exhibitions in Delhi dedicated to photography. Today (9th), there is an opening of another show.

I am not including shows where photography was also shown, these are all 100% photography.

I am sure you would all have heard of the India Art Summit.

There are 2 photography dedicated galleries taking part in the show.

Tasveer
Wonderwall

I will be showing the works of the following photographers:

S Paul
Karan Khanna
Sandeep Biswas
Pradeep Dasgupta
Manoj Kumar Jain
Leena Kejriwal
Dinesh Khanna
Saadiya Kochar
Vikas Malhotra
Mala Mukerjee
Ajay Rajgarhia
Shalini Saran
Madhavi Swarup
Dheeraj Paul
Malkiat Singh
Suzanne Hayano

Hope to see some of you at the Summit. If anyone wants invites, pls email me your mailing address, and i will send out a courier.

Arushi Arts Annual show - Harvest 2008 opens on August 14th and August 19th (exhibiiton is divided into 2 parts), where photography will be well represented.

Yesterdays (8th) HT City has covered this show on Page 10.

Ajay

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Aug 10, 2008 9:04 amre: Art Photography Thread#

anant mishra
hi ajay

thanks for info its re,, a nis show , if u have invite , for me, ples send me at ,,
mr-anant mishra/
co-mr ashok n (foundetion)

college of art
20-22, tilak marg,
n. delhi-1
e mail-anantkrmishra@gmail.com

thank s
anant

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Aug 20, 2008 3:35 pmre: re: re: Art photography#

Jithesh Aravind.K
Hi
Very inspiring message to go through.

Jithu

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Oct 02, 2008 11:21 amre: re: re: re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Fantastic Photographs by Dr. Jehangir Sorabjee

He has so far done no public shows. This is a treat Photography an Art lovers.

http://www.jehangirsorabjee.co.uk/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Oct 22, 2008 12:44 amre: re: re: re: re: Art photography#

Priyanka Gupta
hi,
This was an amazingly informative thread. I have been exhibiting my photographs here in the san francisco bay area and have won an award for the same as well.
thought I should share my photos here

http://picasaweb.google.com/guptapriyanka79/PhotographicVentures?authkey=kOQ2GGz5WBU#

thanx
let me know what ppl think
Priyanka

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Feb 03, 2009 8:01 amArt photography#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Hi

Interesting article on the Photography market in India, in the wall street journal.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123322389351128301.html?mod=todays_asia_weekend_journal


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Feb 03, 2009 11:31 amre: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Ajay,

Thanks. Brilliant Article that too in WSJ!

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Feb 04, 2009 4:24 amre: re: Art photography#

Snigdha Sheel
Very interesting article on Wall Street Jornal. I had the oppurtunity to see Clare's work in Bangalore and I must say she is a great photographer. I have f/w this link to my photographer husband too.

Regards

Snigdha

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Feb 05, 2009 1:50 pmArt photography#

Ajay Rajgarhia
I am curating a photography exhibition in Bangalore and am there right now. The exhibtion starts tomm at the mahua gallery and is on till the 20th. Pls call me if you would like to drop by, or for more info.

My no is 9811057820.

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Feb 10, 2009 3:31 pmre: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Ajay
I was at Mahua today to check on the show, few of the photographs were really stunning > Congrats on the good show;)

Cheers!
Umesh U V
http://affordindianart.com

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Feb 10, 2009 4:44 pmre: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Dear Ajay,

You should think abt putting the show online thru Picsa or Flickr....

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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http://IndyChai.com - India's first Web 2.0 Hyper Aggregated

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Feb 11, 2009 8:38 amArt photography#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Thanks Umesh. i came back to Delhi on the 9th. Missed you. Whose works did you like. Will appreciate feedback.

Mehul - the link to the show is

http://www.mahuagallery.com/mahuaweb/exhibitions/index.asp

hope that helps.

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Feb 11, 2009 12:24 pmre: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Ajay
I liked all the photographers work one or two images, please see the review on DH:

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Feb112009/metro-wed20090210117700.asp

Cheers!
Umesh U V
http://www.affordindianart.com/pages/photography.html

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Feb 11, 2009 2:44 pmre: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Ajay
I liked your 'Aqua' in particular, Ashok Koshy's Taj and musicians, Sandeep Biswas SDPBWS005(reflection series)and was not much impressed by the manipulated images by Karan Khanna and Leena though..........

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Feb 12, 2009 5:07 amre: re: re: Art photography#

Sonali Engineer
interesting blog post from Nicholas Forrest:

http://artmarketblog.com/2009/02/10/photography-auction-at-igavel-artmarkeblogcom/

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Feb 16, 2009 10:51 amre: re: re: re: Art photography#

U V Umesh
Ajay
Review in Deccan Herald today:

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Feb162009/arts20090215118748.asp

Cheers!
Umesh U V
http://affordindianart.com

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Feb 16, 2009 11:05 amArt photography#

Ajay Rajgarhia
thanks again, Umesh

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Feb 16, 2009 11:06 am: re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
This thread needs to be now printed in newspaper or some Art magazine I think ;)

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Feb 17, 2009 11:05 amre: re: : re: Art photography#

Mehul Patel
Hellmuth Conz's work can be seen below:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsbhaskar/1349868906/

Regards,
Mehul Patel
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Feb 17, 2009 11:25 amArt photography em.body - show of nudes#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Wonderwall

Presents


em·body


An exhibition of photographs by

Saadiya Kochar
Vikas Malhotra
Ajay Rajgarhia

Preview: Thursday, 26th February 2009, 6:30pm Onwards

At:

Polka Art Gallery
E-5 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

The exhibition will be on view from 27th February to 7th March, 11am to 7pm.

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Feb 24, 2009 7:02 pmre: Art photography em.body - show of nudes#

U V Umesh
Ajay
One more review in the Deccan Herald by Yamini Vijayan:

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Feb222009/finearts20090221119906.asp

Cheers!
Umesh U V
http://affordindianart.blogspot.com/

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Feb 26, 2009 3:39 amArt photography em.body - show of nudes#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Hi

The show can be seen online by going to www.wonderwall.co.in and clicking on the em.body link. There are a total of 32 works on display.

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Feb 26, 2009 4:42 amre: Art photography em.body - show of nudes#

Snigdha Sheel
Hi Ajay,

I happened to see your exhibition at the Mahua Art Gellery in Bangalore last Sunday and I must say that you have done a fantastic job. I also saw the online exhibition on the wonderwall.co.in site and your work has again left me speechless. Congratulations.

Regards

Snigdha

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Feb 26, 2009 5:46 amArt photography em.body - show of nudes#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Thanks a ton :-), Snigdha.

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Mar 18, 2009 6:40 amSothebys#

Ajay Rajgarhia
Leena Kejriwals work is part of the Sothebys NY auction, starting today. Pls see the link below.

http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159523356

Expected price is USD 5000-7000.

She was selling for Rs. 50,000 in August 08 (during the India Art Summit).

You can also see her work at

http://www.wonderwall.co.in/ViewAll.aspx?name=Leena-Kejriwal

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