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How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.Views: 852
Sep 13, 2006 11:34 amHow people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

John Stephen Veitch
This is a link to a very interesting page about how people use the Internet. This is based on some research I did in New Zealand, but all my experience tells me it's a fair reflection of the facts in most places.

http://www.ate.co.nz/internet/bryndwr.html

Near the end are some statistics about Ryze that will interest the people here.

If you are a newbie, this page will be useful to you.
http://www.ate.co.nz/internet/newbies.html

Regards
John

John S Veitch
Adapt to Experience - http://www.ate.co.nz/
Innovation Network - http://veech-network.ryze.com/


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Sep 16, 2006 12:03 amre: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

Walter Paul Bebirian
Many people in Manhattan (you know that island over here in the State of New York) either don't use a computer never mind visit the Internet or they spend so much time on their computers at work doing work related tasks that they don't want to have to even look at a computer by the time they arrive at home -

http://www.575488trillion.com


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Sep 16, 2006 12:41 amre: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

>> Barry Caplan - Start Your Future Today
Interesting John - and quite in contrast to reports done methodically and repeatedly in the US I have been reviewing lately. See www.pewinternet.org. Many good reports there.

Best,

Barry


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Sep 22, 2006 6:16 amre: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

Dexter Black
I've worked for an Internet company for quite a few years, one company dealing with dial up, and the current one with Cable.
I can say from experience more people are moving from dial up to Broadband then ever before, at least here in the USA.

I do tend to agree that many people have no clue at the power they have at their fingertips with the Internet. It is amazing the things you can research online. Recently I was chatting with a friend online, and I suggested she get really studied up on a product that she wants to market. She asked me "how"? My goodness, "the world is at your fingertips" was my reply.

Dexter


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Sep 23, 2006 2:53 pmre: re: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

Faye Durham
Hi All,

I would never have guessed that people are this slow to embrace the internet.

My experience is just the opposite. I an involved with an internet project in my neighboodhood and we've been successful in getting people involved. We recently switched our newsletter over to Yahoo Groups and lost a few subscribers. However, I see greater use of the internet for shopping, news and weather information. Broadband service and different search engines are gaining in popularity.

It would be interesting to canvas this same group about how much television they watch per day. Look how amny years it took for TV to gain mass appeal. Perhaps there's some competition here.

What this sample does point out is opportunity, especially for the business and social network niche. You know what they say--build it and they will come.

Blessings,

Faye

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Sep 24, 2006 11:34 amre: re: re: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

Walter Paul Bebirian
many things are exhibiting a great deal of amazement - here and elsewhere - it may seem like the Internet is a definite necessity - but not so - like manythings and areas of service the need must be created and a mass appeal has to incur - only by the time a person has grandchildren and they want to communicate with that grandchild or perhaps has lost a few siblings and cousins will the perhaps be interested in keeping closer contact with the remaining few of each if that happens at all - simply to feel not so lonely and left out in our ever increasingly connected world - with the use of e-mail -

How much a shame is it that a fool like Osama Bin Laden may have died and not been able to e-mail to his wealthy family and perhaps become emboldened by this so as to perhaps give up his foolishness and made peace with the entire world - so many of those people in Africa who are being slaughtered as I write this perhaps never had a chance to laytheir fingers on a keyboard connected somewhere to the entire Internet and express their thoughts which might have in some way bettered all of us who remain here (at least for a little while longer) on this planet -

Many things in many areas of the world for the other 6.5 billion people go either unnoticed or unavailable or unwanted and that is just the way it is - you can of course lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink - and unlike the telephone the computer and Internet access - being given a chance to be accessed by almost everyone in all of the communities throughout our good Unoted States in just about eveyr single public library ( at least the ones that I have come across) there is no excuss for a person whose simple is I don't know how to use a computer or the Internet - heck there were no people who knew how to use a telephone when that first came into the world and I think perhaps that there were and still are enough people who refuse to make a good solid efort to use that tool as well or to the extent that is humanly possible so -what can we do?

Keep sharing the joy - the good news - the blessings and always - yes always (as humanly ossible) be willing to help those who are ernestly seeking to learn the many facets and possibilities and powers that may be achieved by being in touch with and utilizing these ever expanding and growing tools -

and so they grow -

http://www.cafepress.com/greenschild

http://www.575488trillion.com


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Sep 25, 2006 1:22 amre: re: re: re: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

John Stephen Veitch
Barry

Thank you for reminding me about www.pewinternet.org who have done some useful work. However having done my research and having read their results, I still claim the two are not contradictory.

Pew is measuring things that are very Web 1.0, are you connected, do you have broadband, can you use a search engine, do you buy stuff on the Internet?

I'm looking for Internet Literacy, the ability to engage with other people, the ability to join and engage with groups of people. The ability to engage in conversations, to publish some of your own material, to comment on blogs, to use lists, to contribute to bulletin boards. Pew doesn't ask about any of this important activity.

Looking at Pew's numbers, the only one that seems different in NZ is the buying online behavior. I think that's got something to do with sales tax in the USA. People can apparently sometimes avoid taxes by buying out of state. You can't do that in NZ.

I've learnt something important in the last month. At least 10% of the population here, (NZ's educational standards are supposed to be very high.) as adults, have a very weak ability to read and write. If that's the case, for them online literacy is a long way off.

NEWNESS in the tools available online, commonly leads to a lack of imagination about how to use those tools. Often the people who created the tool are not themselves aware of how it will be used. My basic theory is this.

When people learn to join and converse with other people, whatever skills, tools, knowledge they need to do what they want to do, is likely to appear "just in time". When you are "ready to learn" you begin to ask the right questions and somebody will point you to the answer. But if you don't participate in groups, that's less likely to happen.

Active participation in list, and on places like Ryze networks is fundamental to developing Internet Literacy. How many people are doing that? Far less than 10% of all those connected to the Internet. Even those who join Ryze, (who at least recognised a need to join a group) are 80% absent on a permanent basis, they never participate.

Regards
John

John S Veitch
Adapt to Experience - http://www.ate.co.nz/
Innovation Network - http://veech-network.ryze.com/


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Sep 25, 2006 2:35 amre: re: re: re: re: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

>> Barry Caplan - Start Your Future Today
> people. The ability to engage in conversations, to publish some of your own material, to comment on blogs, to use lists, to contribute to bulletin boards. Pew doesn't ask about any of this important activity.

Pew has published major reports on all that, especially blogs specifically.

> At least 10% of the population here, (NZ's educational standards are supposed to be very high.) as adults, have a very weak ability to read and write.

I have heard similar claims from other NZ'ers over the years.

Best,

Barry


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Sep 28, 2006 6:21 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: re: How people FAIL to make good use of the Internet.#

Marielena Alvarez
My mom will soon be 75 and doesn't want to get internet access in the house (shared with my brother, who takes care of her, he's in his 40's and wants internet access at home). Despite this, she calls me on a regular basis to look up numbers and she just loves what I can find for her on infospace.com

She is often trying to connect with former classmates or their spouses (who usually have bad news that her pal has passed). Nevertheless she loves it when I can help her reconnect!

Just yesterday my brother called, wanting me to go online to order a calendar for him. When they asked for an e-mail address he gave me one! Seems he has access to a computer where he takes classes!

Mom is always begging me to send photos to my brother's girlfriend, so she can print them out for mom. I can't afford to visit often and when I do I bring a CD and a laptop so she can enjoy the photos of family and friends. Dad enjoyed it very much, before he died of Parkinson's in January 2005.

So even though mome doesn't have internet access or know how to use a computer, the seed has been planted and I can't wait to see how it grows.

Eventually she will be the Adminstrator of some family tree websites. She will then have access to distant family, photos and people around the globe. She is a great typist and she's going to have a ball once she gets cataract surgery and can see well enough to use a computer. Sounds like a good post surgery present! With a host of family who made it past 90, she has a lot of living left do to!


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