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| | The Minding Your Own Business Network is not currently active and cannot accept new posts | | Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | Views: 802 | | Apr 17, 2006 10:21 am | | Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Denise O'Berry | | Kurt --
You said -- Last time I checked, posts in Ryze forums were not being indexed by any search engines. Home pages (both personal and network) were, but not forum posts.
Not true. These pages have been getting indexed for a long time. Here's an example. I took some words from a post John Veitch made last November and did a search. And yes it's indexed and cached in Google. See the link below.
http://ceourl.com/googlesearch
Best regards,
Denise O'Berry
Network LeaderPrivate Reply to Denise O'Berry | | Apr 17, 2006 6:34 pm | | re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Reg Charie | | I think this subject deserves a separate thread too.
Good call Denise.
In the thread discussing signature files Kurt said, (one of the reasons), he
did not use links to his websites was because the search engines did not index
Ryze posts.
We both point out that they do and
give examples.
I am sure that some of the readers will be saying "Ok, so the search engines
index the Ryze posts, but what does this mean for me?"
To answer this it means that it is a way to improve your websites PR. (Page
Rank).
For those of you that are not sure what PR means, there is an excellent
explanation at
http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/
To put it in the simplest terms it means "PageRank is a “vote”, by all the
other pages on the Web, about how important a page is. A link to a page counts
as a vote of support. If there’s no link there’s no support (but it’s an
abstention from voting rather than a vote against the page)." (Thanks Ian).
Given that page rank is valuable to a website's listings in the search
engines it therefore follows that a webmaster should try to take advantage of
Google's algorithms by putting their link in as many pages as possible, the
more relevant the page the better.
Relevant in this case being posts that are discussing things of interest
pertaining to YOUR business and have key words or keyword phrases in the post
that relate to your keywords.
This is all part of SEO/SEM. (Search Engine Optimization/Search Engine
Marketing).
In terms of SEO the links to your website are given a weight when being indexed.
A link to your site given as a straight www.mysite.com is the lowest.
Putting your link as a phrase which incorporates one of your keyword phrases
gives more weight, (relevance), when Google is applying PR.
Putting your link as a phrase which incorporates one of your keyword phrases,
which was used in the body of the post, (or page), gives the highest weight.
(See my "First page SEO results" link below as an example.)
If you are not doing this you are not taking advantage of a simple and effective
marketing tactic.
It is a given that the majority of a website's traffic will come from the major
search engines with Google leading the pack by a wide margin.
We are all building our businesses. It doesn't matter if your business is real
world or virtual, a contributing factor to your success is traffic. The way to
get the traffic is to take every opportunity to build links and think in SEM
terms.
Thinking in SEM is easy if you consider the one factor that takes precedence
which is relevance.
When people and search engine spiders, (the programs that find things like these
posts), are reading a post and come across a part of the post they are
interested in, (keyword relevance), it is a natural response to click on a link,
(read follow for the search engine spiders), with the same relevance. They are much more likely to click on your link if it
is relevant than if it is just your URL, (website address), especially if your URL does not include
the keywords.
Making it easy for people to get the information they are looking for is our
primary marketing function.
When you write to this guide line the search engines naturally follow.
To those that say that to put their link in html makes it necessary to write the
whole post in HTML I can only say DOH!
You have an online business, you have a website, don't you think it is time to
learn a little HTML? Or buy a site editing program?
EvrSoft offers a free WYSIWYG web design program which is reasonably easy to
use.
Some have said "If people want to find out more about me, they can
come to my Ryze homepage.
However, MY logs show that visits to my DCP website are much more common
from my posts than from my Ryze homepage. A LOT more.
It is not "If you build it, they will come", but "If you make it
relevant and easy, they will come".
Reg (Long winded as usual, Objects in your mirrors are losing.)
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nothing. Private Reply to Reg Charie | | Apr 17, 2006 7:17 pm | | re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
RebeccaWA | | In my internet searchings I have come across ryze postings from people here as well as other message forums.
This is the main reason I will not put my website url in my posts.
I certainly do not want my customers and potential customers reading over my ryze posts!
You will also show up using your full name as well as your website.
Rebecca Private Reply to RebeccaWA | | Apr 17, 2006 7:27 pm | | re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Richard Kuper | | Indeed Ryze posts are indexed. I just did a search on my name (Richard Kuper) in yahoo and, ironically, the 4th listing (after one to a white paper I wrote, and two listings of some other person with the same name as me) is a ryze posting I made a while back in the ryze NYC group in response to a very blatant advertising post. The 9th listing of the top 10 is my ryze page. Curiously today when making the same search on google, 9 of the first 10 entries are of other people, and the 9th entry is an arbitrary page I made in frappr. No ryze link in the top 10. A similar search using AltaVista yields results similar, but not exactly the same, as those from yahoo. A search using Ask yields only one entry that is me (the rest again are other folks with the same name), and it is my Ryze page.
I also note that Reg was not being entirely altruistic when he included a link to a "free" product -- he provided an affiliate link and probably earned 5 cents for each one of us that clicked, and if anyone opted to buy the version that is not free, he gets money for that too. It would probably be prudent when folks include links in the body of their emails (I'm excluding signatures in this suggestion) that they be forthcoming about such things.
Richard
PS No html was used in the posting of this message.
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--------------------------------------------------------------Private Reply to Richard Kuper | | Apr 17, 2006 8:16 pm | | re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Kurt Schweitzer | | I guess this shows how long it's been since I checked this!
Kurt SchweitzerPrivate Reply to Kurt Schweitzer | | Apr 18, 2006 2:00 am | | re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
GiGi Gaggero | |
Reg writes: " You have an online business, you have a website, don't you think it is time to learn a little HTML?EvrSoft offers a free WYSIWYG web design program which is reasonably easy to use."
Reg... I love it; this could be my new toy! I think I will be the "test" to see just how easy it really is..!
Although, I do disagree that I should learn HTML just because I have a website and do business on line....... I am an expert in the area I need to be to generate an income. Mainly my area of expertise, which you all know is not HTML, technology, or anything remotely attached to it.... including my relationship to the website.
I personally would rather contract (and have) a webmaster to build, and maintain my site based on my wants and needs for my market influences. Therefore; I can concentrate on other more important issues pertaining to what I do.
I do use constant contact when I write newsletters...And thank goodness for that or I would need to hire someone to do that too..... I would be there forever... And not be doing what I do best. Teaching and cooking.
In conclusion I would like you to know..., now that I have this EvrSoft tool... I am sure my webmaster is going to go bald... Unless, of course he already is... hee hee! Ahhhhh....The power of technology!
I do want you to all know I personally separated theses paragrpahs with HTML code and made this last paragraph bold....
Yippeee! ! *wink, wink!
Thanks Again! (Evil, sinister laugh! Moahhhhhhh!)
gg
Private Reply to GiGi Gaggero | | Apr 20, 2006 9:42 pm | | Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Casper Stockham - Success Leaves Clue$ | | Rebecca
I always post my url and contact info in ALL my posts because I want to be found.
If you are worried about your customers seeing your post make sure they are intelligent and spell checked. When it comes to search engines and Ryze You are what you type.
Casper Stockham
303 337-9432
casper@casperstockham.com
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Join our Ryze Network - http://datablaze-network.ryze.com
Success leaves clues - http://www.casperstockham.comPrivate Reply to Casper Stockham - Success Leaves Clue$ | | Apr 20, 2006 10:33 pm | | re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
Reg Charie | | Casper,
Putting your link in anchor text rather than a straight http:..... helps
tremendously in the search engines also.
When it comes to search engines and Ryze You are what you type.
Reg
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Private Reply to Reg Charie | | Apr 21, 2006 4:51 pm | | re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Jan Verhoeff | | I've noticed a lot of my Ryze posts on the Search Engines when I search for my name, or my links. Quite often in a keyword search, I come across my posts. Depending on your purpose of business or posting, your posts will be catagorically found on search engines because of the words you use.
If my clients find my posts on Ryze or any of the numerous other forums I post on, they will find either scrumptuously delicious recipes, me having fun, or me relating to and networking with people who have similar interests to mine. I'm not sure I have a problem with them knowing I'm human (after all, everyone makes mistakes and typos are mistakes). I've found when your clients realize you are REAL they contact you more often about those little scuffy things they need help with.
Jan Verhoeff
http://janverhoeff.com
http://writeurthoughts.blogspot.com
Private Reply to Jan Verhoeff | | Apr 21, 2006 6:23 pm | | re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Audrey Okaneko | | I have to share a really funny story. Last month I was car shopping. I really am not interested in follow up phone calls asking if I want to buy the car. I am willing to provide my name, my drivers license and and SS number for a credit check to be run.
One dealer decided to look me up on Google to see if she could find my phone number. What she found were several posts of mine which did lead her to my website,which in turn led her to my phone number.
While I was not pleased being called by her, it made me acutely aware of easy we are to find by those who want to find us.
Audrey :)
http://www.scrapping-made-simple.com Private Reply to Audrey Okaneko | | Apr 21, 2006 9:13 pm | | re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
GiGi Gaggero | | Jan that is a great point! However, After reading these posts,I decided to take a look around my "Internet baggage." After I "googled" myself I was still immediatly appauled! I found postings from a Parenting Network I posted on Ryze....some time ago. The information I wrote could have lead to a "My Space " incident. (Can I say that?)
I quickly deleted all of them from the network... However, there is still one pending; from a restauraunt network...
I can't seem to get rid of it...Does anyone know how? I didn't give my address, but putting two and two together isn't that hard... If you're smart enough to follow all my threads,AND follow a peek at these links below ; through a google search.. well,...you could have bummped into me in town!
It's the content we should be careful about. I spend so much time telling my kids, I didn't even hear myself talk!
Kids Culinary Adventures...Where Math, Reading, Science and Art mix with kids!
Read what the San Francisco Chronicle had to say about Kids Culinary Adventures!
Private Reply to GiGi Gaggero | | Apr 21, 2006 9:16 pm | | re: re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
GiGi Gaggero | | See....... Scary! Audrey- we musta' wrote our posts at the same time.. LOL ( So California ) Were parinoid out here! LOL
gg Kids Culinary Adventures...Where Math, Reading, Science and Art mix with kids!
Private Reply to GiGi Gaggero | | Apr 21, 2006 9:57 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
Jan Verhoeff | | Are you active in your community around home at all?
My daughter doesn't have an address online, no links to her email (everything she has online is connected to me) and she's away at college. She works full time, goes to college, and is very active in the community. She's had two active and potentially dangerous stalkers in the three years she's been in school. The first one was a fellow student on campus. The second one was a customer in her business. Neither of them were met online, nor did they find her online. They met her through everyday contact.
While I agree we need to take precautions, we need to warn our children, and we need to be aware of potential personal hazards, but... are you going to live behind closed doors to protect yourself from harm that may not even be there?
My business is located online and in my home. I have a small office, but it hardly would qualify as my office, I only use it for meeting clients who probably would not meet me at my home.
We can live behind bars and locked doors (no computer access is totally safe) in fear of what might happen, or we can face life head on and take power over whatever evils may befall us. I'm not even talking about religious faith here, I'm talking about the personal desire to live FREE.
I realize not everyone on Ryze is American, but I am, and I don't even want to consider living without the freedom to communicate and promote my business.
Jan Verhoeff
http://janverhoeff.com Private Reply to Jan Verhoeff | | Apr 22, 2006 1:19 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
GiGi Gaggero | | Sending you an PM
Let em know if I can help in anyway.
ggPrivate Reply to GiGi Gaggero | | Apr 22, 2006 2:12 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
Jan Verhoeff | | GG you are so sweet! I saw your PM before I saw this.
I think things are okay. She's pretty astute.
My point was more that if we let them win, by scaring us into 'safe houses' then we've lost our freedom.
Blessings,
JanPrivate Reply to Jan Verhoeff | | Apr 22, 2006 3:52 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Ron Amundson | | As an FYI, even if you try to keep info confidential, the govt in many cases will thwart your efforts.
Here is an interesting discussion on digg concerning this. Granted, they are talking FL, but all govt agencies screw up from time to time when it comes to security, and often times are incredibly slow to come up with a solution.
http://digg.com/security/Need_a_new_Identiy_Download_one_today_
Please note the comments further on down the page...
In a nutshell, if someone wants to find you, its not all that hard. The decision is really whether its 45 seconds on google or 10 minutes to do some more digging.
Ron
http://catsamazing-network.ryze.com/Private Reply to Ron Amundson | | Apr 22, 2006 4:54 am | | re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Rashan Thompson | | Working entrepreneurs need to be especially sensitive to the search engine indexing that Ryze does. Entrepreneurs who are also job seekers can find past post coming back to haunt them. A good number of potential employers will Google a candidate’s name before even calling them in (Third party recruiters do this often). You wouldn’t want anything to pop up that might thwart your chances to land a job or ruined your reputation in your industry. Even if you are currently working you want to be careful with what you put out there on Ryze. I just did a search on my name and was shock to see how many posts came up and I haven’t been on Ryze two months yet. I can only imagine what some of you old timers have out there ;-).
RT
Rashan Thompson
Chief Service Officer/ Founder
Strategic Service Group
www.StrategicServiceGroup.comPrivate Reply to Rashan Thompson | | Apr 23, 2006 2:23 pm | | re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # | 
Dina Giolitto, WordFeeder.com | | Hi Denise et al,
If you're a network leader, yes, you CAN control whether or not your Ryze posts (AND your Ryze page) get indexed by the engines.
Since I deleted my network, I don't know the exact buttons to click off the top of my head, maybe EDIT NETWORK and scan down the page to find the option. But the choice IS definitely there, in both cases.
I changed the settings on my old network to NOT be indexed on Google. I really felt like I had a close-knit group and a personal rapport with many members and didn't want our conversations and trade secrets "out there" for the world to see.
Naturally, when you're a network visitor as opposed to a leader, you have no control over the indexing preferences of other people's networks, so yes, you want to watch your Ps and Qs at all times.
Dina
http://Wordfeeder.comPrivate Reply to Dina Giolitto, WordFeeder.com | | Apr 23, 2006 2:29 pm | | re: re: re: Are Ryze posts indexed by the search engines? You bet | # |
Dina Giolitto, WordFeeder.com | | I'm back!
Out of curiosity, I temporarily created a network so I could review the steps to not getting it indexed.
Go to EDIT SETTINGS and you'll see this set of choices:
Who can view:
Anyone
Ryze members
Network members
If you check off "Anyone," your page will get indexed. It's that simple.
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