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Convergence Issues - Traffic ManagementViews: 447
Sep 17, 2006 5:43 amConvergence Issues - Traffic Management#

Ken Hilving
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How does your company handle traffic utilization of the converged network? How do you monitor, prioritize, trend, and report traffic on your WAN links?

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Sep 18, 2006 6:56 pmre: Convergence Issues - Traffic Management#

Gurvinder Singh Bindra
Hi Kenneth..
Cisco OR linux..Both can aid you here....

I would use an excel sheet to first determine the basic traffic flows..


What goes in and what goes out..

Then use caching servers to contain common port flows..
Squid for Http / FTP...
Use multi tier squid if need be..

That leaves the main data...Even the chats (MSN/ Yahoo / ICQ) can be transparently redireted through the squids..

Now that leaves the voice segments..

Ideally redirect voice requests to a new network segment...One that is dedicated for voice..
That way your gateway then only has to sort between voice and data requests...

I can work out a complete solution if you require..but it would be large.

Lemme know !

Regards
Gurvinder

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Sep 18, 2006 8:14 pmre: re: Convergence Issues - Traffic Management#

Ken Hilving
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Thanks for the offer, Gurvinder, but I don't have a specific need. I am hoping to trigger a more in depth discussion on this as a knowledge transfer within this network. Looking at your site, I am sure you have some opinions worth sharing with everyone.

Identifying the traffic itself is a good first step. The question is to what detail and where. The WAN ports, since these typically are connected to leased (recurring cost) services, are an obvious choice. What I want to know first is who is talking to who, when, volume by direction, packet sizing, and application. I want to see this over time to trend usage. I want to be able to summarize the data by percentage of usage and percentage of available bandwidth by locations, specific devices or users, and application. Of course, I don't want the capture of this data to become a performance hog in its own right, so my inclination is an external monitoring approach. What traffic monitoring do you use, what do you collect, and how do you use it?

When you say Cisco, I assume you are referencing the tools that used to be the Optimal Networks suite. Excellent for modeling changes and validating design expectations, but not particularly robust at monitoring and data collection. What monitoring approaches are members here using, and why did you choose it versus alternatives?

What are folks here doing with their providers in terms of traffic management? If my circuits aren't point to point, my performance efforts may be compromised once I get past the access loop onto a "network neutral" common path. Has anyone a successful answer to this condition?

Another question to the members is what is your traffic mix? What is using your bandwidth?

On the LAN side, my interest is a bit different. First off, I want to know the "overhead" load of the applications and network protocols in use. Next, I want to know the flows between segments. Again, I don't want monitoring to creates its own performance issue.

Segmenting voice from data is interesting. Sort of defeats the concept of convergence. The avoidance of extra station runs is nullified, and common use leased circuits as a key benefit to packetized voice is lost, it seems. Of course, I can see where performance could improve by doing this.

Squid can be useful for reducing some traffic and improving perceived performance, although the value will be based on the traffic patterns of the particular network. I am not sure where caching would be of use in a chat environment. Perhaps someone can expand on this?

 

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Sep 21, 2006 11:40 amre: Convergence Issues - Traffic Management#

James Hilving
I’d love to answer your question, “How do you monitor, prioritize, trend, and report traffic on your WAN links”. This is from an ISP’s point of view but in my experience can be used in many Enterprise solutions as well.

- Clarifying my terms of LAN/WAN.
First, I’m going to play with the terms WAN/LAN here and clarify my further explanations. Often, in our jargon of communicating the setup of the network the WAN is a Point-Point to a remote termination point and the LAN is simply the Multi-Access Local Network for end nodes to get to the WAN…or each other. I’m finding more and more where WAN and LAN are more appropriately replace by their function, rather than media. This is due to the increasing need/desire to use commonly referred to as “LAN” media ( 10/100/1000 Ethernet ) as replacements to the previous WAN functions and even WAN (POS) replacing previous LAN(s) between routers locally. If we put the media terms aside I prefer to use instead Transit, Aggregate Transit, Access, and Aggregate Access Ports/Paths/Connections in my network.

- How do you monitor?
So there are 1,001 methods to monitoring. Personally, I prefer to use SNMP and a open source solution ( rrdtool ) to simply poll the elements for those MIBs that I want to see results. This gives me the functionality to tweak my reports and minimize polls to the network where many paid for monitoring suites often over-due it because they want to provide everything you could ask for.

- Prioritize?
Well, for me, this comes down to what the user/clients prefers. The objective is to have a network that operates so efficiently the need for prioritizing traffic is absent…but hey features are fun anyway.

- Trend and Report.
I clump these together because all my trends, are also reports. I believe that traffic trends can be hierarchal within a cloud of responsibility…we like to call “our network”. To start, traffic is traffic is traffic. It is really fun and neat to trend traffic by application but see, the traffic passes through routers, and well the router’s default nature is to treat them all the same; if your network is built properly that is all that is needed.

The First Level of my hierarchy report start at the Aggregate Transit (I told you I would use this term). This is a virtual “port’ in my network that identifies the sum of ALL the traffic exiting and entering my network regrdless of location, taking the “transit” outside if you will. It is a virtual port because I can have multiple exit points, my trend is then based on the total of this type of traffic.

Under my Transit Aggregation you’ll find the individual ports, or actually just Transit ports. If two transit ports are load balanced or identified as “sister” ports such as they have the exact same function and back each other up those become one in my report. Adding all the Transit Ports and subtracting from the Transit Aggregation totals will identify the difference between traffic loads taking the “WAN” inside your network versus taking the "WAN" outside the network...or transit traffic again.

Dig deeper into the tree expanding my transit ports and you’ll find the aggregate access ports. These are almost like sub-transit ports but now in the area we would normal call the LAN(s). If you add up all the aggregate access ports and subtract it from the parent transit you’ll know what is traffic heading to the “WAN” and local to this part of the “LAN(s)”.

Expand again and find the Access Ports. These could be the actual LAN ports of even a WAN port reserved for other to Access your network provided you do not use them for any transit. As before add up all these trends and subtract from the parent and receive the difference.

If application traffic is also a requirement, you could expand at the access branch or even higher at the Transit Branches to identify this trend. This gets sticky as you come up with solution to gather the data….lots of ways to do it.

My theory here is you now have broken up the traffic into usable segments by function. Taking the sum and differences you can predict breaking points of where the traffic exceeding your available bandwidth at each branch of my tree. You can play with the idea of moving the contents of one branch to another failover branch and test this against the total possible bandwidth of the parent. This information also looks really cool in a graph with lots of pretty colors and legends and such. ;0)

Fun stuff!
-J

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