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Convergence Issues - Organizational StructureViews: 478
Sep 17, 2006 5:52 amConvergence Issues - Organizational Structure#

Ken Hilving
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With convergence, organizational structures probably have changed. What does your technology groups org chart look like today?

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Sep 17, 2006 12:03 pmre: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure#

Romuald Navin
Hola!

The tech char has remained the same since 2004, with a separate leg running up to the CTO office and on to the CEO.
However, the main difference that I observe, not only in my org but also in many in Asia, is the creation of a position that sits in between the Technology and Commercial teams - someone with technology background but also has a keen eye on business development and end-user perspective.

Just some feedback from this end of the global playground.. :)

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Sep 18, 2006 8:18 pmre: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure#

Ken Hilving
We call that a business analyst here. Sometimes the function falls on the infrastructure architect instead.

Did you have a seperate voice group and data group? If so, was it at the user support level only, or did it extend to engineering and operations? With convergence, did you merge staffs or cut staff and move responsibility?

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Sep 23, 2006 8:55 amre: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure#

Romuald Navin
Does your business analyst get involved in day-to-day technical and commerical operations OR just provides feedback/consultation?

Yes, separate teams... at user support and ops level.
With merger, staff count was halved, but then, alot more was outsourced to india!! In terms of productivity, we're not sure if what we did is the right move now... *lol*

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Sep 24, 2006 4:55 amre: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ken Hilving
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The role of the business analyst varies from enterprise to enterprise.

Ideally, time is split between the technical and business units. At the business unit, the business analyst is often the first level support for existing technology. More important is the time spent in with users and in management meetings. There, the business analyst is listening for opportunities to improve the role of technology. These get presented to the technical units as business requirements in terms that are relevant to the technical staff.

Information from the technical units on what can or cannot be done, or changes necessary (whether for maintenance of existing systems or to provide new services), as well as new technical possibilities, are brought back and presented to the business units in their own terms.

In short, the business analyst is the translator between the business and technical units.

In an outsource situation, the business analyst function and time varies a bit depending on whether the client or outsource employee. This variance is a natural occurrence based on who provides the paycheck and hence defines what defines a successful exchange.

On major projects it is important to reconsider the business objectives and business requirements. A business analyst associated with a particular business unit sometimes loses the objectivity to consider the enterprise business objectives. This is why an infrastructure architect will sometimes step in. 

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Sep 25, 2006 3:40 pmre: re: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ira Stoller
In practical situations, if enough ideas which are presented to technical services are shot down as undoable or unrealistic, or too expensive, the business units will no longer be as open with the business analyst. They figure what's the point of asking.

I work in the United States for an Israeli based company. We no longer make suggestions for IT improvements since none of them have ever been deemed worthy of consideration. To repeat, when you run across a situation like this, what's the point of continuing to ask?

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Sep 25, 2006 4:27 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ken Hilving
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It has been my experience that suggestions to any SME (subject matter expert) individual or group that include specifics within that domain are poorly received. While each circumstance is unique, I have concluded that the problem is with the five currencies, and in particular with security and prestige. It takes a very confident individual to accept outside advice or suggestions regarding something the individual is considered an expert in.

So how are your suggestions to IT phrased? Are you making specific technical suggestions, or making business suggestions that IT can turn into technical solutions? Do your suggestions give them a gain in their security and prestige, or a loss by exposing their short comings?

A good business analyst understands this intuitively or by training. His own status within the company should be based on a mutually successful relationship between business units and technical units, so he gains whenever he enables cooperation. A key part of his task is to phrase the issues so each side feels an aggregate gain in time, money, security, knowledge, and prestige.

So what's the point in continuing to ask? I suspect its because you care about doing a good job, and care about being part of a successful company.

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Sep 25, 2006 6:50 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ira Stoller
Ken, what we look for at this point are work-arounds. IT is supposed to have a staff function. When the IT department can and does make - instead of follow - company policy, where do you go?

We make suggestions to improve the flow of information and to streamline operations. Current policies slow down our operation, but nobody at headquarters is at all sympathetic. They have the whole company to worry about and cannot (read that will not) make exceptions for one small business unit.

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Sep 25, 2006 8:47 pmre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ken Hilving
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I can empathize with the frustration.

I don't know if there is an approach in your circumstance that would work. Depending on what has already transpired, there may not be a way for IT to see an aggregate gain at this point. The physical distance also works against you since it is harder to establish a personal relationship that can serve as a backdoor for your proposal. If it seems clear that too many walls have been built, too many bridges burned, an immediate solution might be impossible from the inside.

An outside solution might work. If this is an important objective for your business unit, give me a call and we can kick around some possibilities. Otherwise, we can simply drink a toast to business idiocy when you are down this way.

We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces
Whiskey for the men and beer for the horses.

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Sep 26, 2006 5:13 amre: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Convergence Issues - Organizational Structure - Business Analyst#

Ira Stoller
Thr latter will be much more productive!

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